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Old 03-15-2016, 01:05 PM   #29
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From now on change the Diff fluid every 30000 Miles or sooner, if you do mostly pulling. Be sure they use synthetic fluid and if you have limited slip be sure they put the anti-slip lube package in it also. My Dakota is now 13 years old has 217000Km and I change the fluids every 50000Km. I switched to synthetic fluid on the first major service and the gears still look perfect and new. Dodge is not known for failed Rear Diff's but it can happen. BTW I bought the Dodge because several friend had major failures of rear diff and tranny's after the warranty ran out on their Chev trucks...and I have been a Chevy guy my whole life!
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Old 03-15-2016, 04:50 PM   #30
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The Red Sled is back. I pulled out the August 2015 invoice and the pinion seal was replaced then. Is there only one pinion seal and is it on it where the drive shaft comes into or the pumpkin itself?

Just to understand..everything is fixed and we will be changing diff every 30,000. Love our Red Sled.

Thanks for all the help and I am not a fan of west Texas. You drive forever and there is nothing but a bunch of pump jacks. Who am I to say..some guys must really like it here.

Thanks once again for listening to me whine. I need to put on my happy and strong face and I know our son, Bret will get through this. It always could be worse.

til next time, BadKat
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Old 03-15-2016, 06:12 PM   #31
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The Red Sled is back. I pulled out the August 2015 invoice and the pinion seal was replaced then. Is there only one pinion seal and is it on it where the drive shaft comes into or the pumpkin itself?

Just to understand..everything is fixed and we will be changing diff every 30,000. Love our Red Sled.

Thanks for all the help and I am not a fan of west Texas. You drive forever and there is nothing but a bunch of pump jacks. Who am I to say..some guys must really like it here.

Thanks once again for listening to me whine. I need to put on my happy and strong face and I know our son, Bret will get through this. It always could be worse.

til next time, BadKat
There is only one pinion, and pinion seal, per differential. If it's a 2wd, there is only one. If it is 4wd, there are 2, one for each axle assembly.

Not that it matters, but this weekend, I will be replacing the pinion seal in our tow vehicle, as well as the one in my boss's SUV. This seems to be the season for it.
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Old 03-15-2016, 07:14 PM   #32
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It is 2wd so is it located at the drive shaft?
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Old 03-15-2016, 08:13 PM   #33
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The pinion seal is right behind the U joint at the differential and keeps the oil in. The lip of the seal usually rides on the rear of the flange that the U joint fits to and is what I consider an "iffy" repair. I wouldn't buy a vehicle with a leaky seal unless the price was such that I could replace the axle assembly. When rear ends are assembled there are several critical adjustments one of which is the correct torque on the pinion nut. It is best to never mess with this nut once the rear end is put together. This is more of an issue on some differentials than others. If it starts leaking bad you have to fix it but in my experience it can be a sign of future trouble. All you can do is try not to dunk the differential at the boat ramp, hope they put a matching ring and pinion in at the factory, have a cover with a magnetic drain plug and change the oil every now and then. I don't think the oil wears out but tiny bits of metal wear off the parts as you drive and you don't want them to circulate around in there. No matter what you do, sometimes things happen and you just deal with it the best you can and move forward. Best wishes for your son, thankfully as mentioned the cure rate is very good. I too will say a few prayers.
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Old 03-15-2016, 08:26 PM   #34
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I have seen the "wear" sludge that builds up inside the differential..
When changing oil, I remove the cover and wipe out the inside "pumpkin".. Not down the axle shafts ..especially the bottom, inspect backlash, preload, etc...

Then replace cover and lube...and any recommend additives. Drive carefully for a while the. Check for leaks then move on...
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Old 03-15-2016, 09:13 PM   #35
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Here is it!

Whatcha think..do get 2 yrs Mopar parts and labor warranty at any Dodge dealer.
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Old 03-15-2016, 09:41 PM   #36
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That's the deal!!!
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Old 03-15-2016, 09:47 PM   #37
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And always wondered why the differential fluid stinks so bad. That's all. ..
And all our best for your Son's full recovery badcat.
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Old 03-15-2016, 10:26 PM   #38
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Gear oil stinks because it has a lot of sulphur in it.


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Old 03-15-2016, 11:21 PM   #39
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Our prayers are with your son and you!

As far as West Texas is concerned, Ft. Stinking Dessert is not the best spot to break down, but Odessa has its good points. Some of the best Dodge techs are there and they will do the job correctly. There livelihood and that of their clients (oil patch) depend on it.

I drive Fords. There are more Dodges in the Permian Basin then anywhere and they work their butts off. You have got one of the best pulling machines there is.
"Ford being the exception"

Some of my oil patch buddies that are Dodge folks have had issues with the back universal joint. (knuckle shapped affair just in front of differential connecting drive shaft to differential)

Because they are sealed bearings there is no grease fittings. If one of the grease cups is defective the universal joint gets very hot and thus causes a failure in the oil seal of the differental. Next all types of nastiness does damage.

The Dodge has so much torque and the six speed tranny delivers this to the drive line so well any part that is not up to the job will cause you grief.

Ranchers have been known to replace a new sealed bearing u-joint as soon as they get a new pickup. Being on the side of the road with 20 head of baby cows is not good.

Bet the Dodge House put a u-joint that can take grease on your retrofit.

Takes care and the very best to your family. See you down the trail.

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Old 03-16-2016, 11:12 AM   #40
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When you have good connectivity check this pinion seal replacement...

http://youtu.be/HNkGdByzyjI

Pinion seal replacement... Just in case you didn't know...
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Old 03-17-2016, 03:18 PM   #41
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Interesting..guess I am surprised they just topped of the fluid and replaced seal in August without thinking of a total change of fluid and did they put the pinion on too tight.. but it is a dealer with certified mechanics. Always trying to save us money but that did not happen this time. We are good to go now so what is done is done..learned a very valuable lesson. Thanks.
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Old 03-29-2016, 09:47 PM   #42
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The truck is doing great..just an update on our son, Bret. Surgery was today to remove the rest of his thyroid and he is now at home. He has been always upbeat .. now to convince him not to ride his bike for 4-6 weeks :-( . We are happy with the results so far..thanks for all the support..you guys are the best.
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