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Old 09-09-2014, 03:01 PM   #29
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A 3/4 ton truck, properly equipped, does not pull an Airstream, any better than a properly equipped 1/2 ton truck.

Sure it can carry more weight, but that has nothing to do with towing an Airstream.

History shows that the heavier the tow vehicle, the rougher the ride for the trailer and the truck passengers, and more long term damage to the trailer.

Bigger sometimes, is worse than smaller.

Brute force, is not a good tow vehicle for an Airstream trailer, plus being a waste of money.

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For sure..... and don't forget the added costs involved with maintaining and operating a 3/4 ton vehicle.
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Old 09-09-2014, 03:19 PM   #30
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What are the additional costs for a three quarter ton vehicle if it is gas over , say, 40000 miles? Jim
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Old 09-09-2014, 04:48 PM   #31
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What are the additional costs for a three quarter ton vehicle if it is gas over , say, 40000 miles? Jim
I think they have grease zerks.
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Old 09-09-2014, 05:58 PM   #32
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for what it's worth.....

1978 Airstream Sovereign 31', tow vehicle 1999 C2500 2WD 3/4 ton Suburban with the big block..... I treat generously with maintenance and upkeep. 162,000 plus miles and going strong. 10 mpg pulling the trailer. 14 w/o
Jim, that's my same rig. 1999 C2500 2WD I bought new. Now w/ 102,000 miles. I love the 44 gal tank & HD trany. Of course our 31's are heavier. I'll drive that suburban as long as it will let me.
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A 3/4 ton truck, properly equipped, does not pull an Airstream, any better than a properly equipped 1/2 ton truck.

Sure it can carry more weight, but that has nothing to do with towing an Airstream.

History shows that the heavier the tow vehicle, the rougher the ride for the trailer and the truck passengers, and more long term damage to the trailer.

Bigger sometimes, is worse than smaller.

Brute force, is not a good tow vehicle for an Airstream trailer, plus being a waste of money.

Andy
When I purchased my 1984 31í Sovereign back in 1998, I had a C1500 suburban w/ tow package. It did great on flat land but my first trip to the Big Bend area quickly revealed its short comings. The main issue was the weak transmission. I burned the fluid on the first trip out there. I decided to move up to the C2500 suburban and oh what a difference. I have no problems in the mountains and can use overdrive on gentle grades. The ride in the C2500 is stiff until you hookup your trailer then itís just smooth as can be. I think the match up of a 3/4 ton suburban and the longer 25í Ė 31í Airstreams are made for each other (Sorry Andy).

Now as for Kevinís 1965 Caravel, there wonít be enough weight on the back of the 3/4 ton Suburban to smooth out the ride thus making it hard on the driver and the Caravel.

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Old 09-09-2014, 06:26 PM   #34
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I Choose A Van As My Tow Rig!

I towed my Caravel with a Chevy 3500 van for a few years. The ride was rough and the MPG at best 12-14 towing. I have now towed with my 09 Grand Caravan for over 2 years. The Dodge is a much better ride. I'm getting 14-17.5 MPG. I think vans make great tow rigs you able to keep your gear dry and safe. Plus much my room for passengers.

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Disclaimer: I just bought a 2013 Suburban 2500 4x4, to tow my trailer, and I just had my front overhead cabinet fall down. I can't ignore the possibility that it might be related to my new towing setup, although I've received plenty of feedback suggesting that the two are coincidental.

OMG - The engine and exhaust sounds are just so sweet. I don't even bother turning on the radio with this truck.
You are beating the trailer to death.

That type damage is typical of excessive rated tow vehicles, excessive rated hitch bars, lack of proper running gear balance, or bad rubber rods in the axle/axles.

Any one of the above, or more, is what you now have.

Your tow vehicle is really over kill even for a 34 foot Airstream.

Sorry.

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The thing is you can tow with whatever you want in a BIG truck. I drove truck for years if you load your truck properly and with enough weight the ride is GREAT. So if it is a 150 or a 450 or my truck put the right amount of weight in the truck and the TT should be OK. I can say for sure with a big truck you NEED a airhitch. Everyone I talk to says it makes a HUGE difference.
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The thing is you can tow with whatever you want in a BIG truck. I drove truck for years if you load your truck properly and with enough weight the ride is GREAT. So if it is a 150 or a 450 or my truck put the right amount of weight in the truck and the TT should be OK. I can say for sure with a big truck you NEED a airhitch. Everyone I talk to says it makes a HUGE difference.
You can tow a lot with a big truck but a 60s Caravel will be pounded pretty hard. A large truck is overkill, imo and with time, you might expect to see sheared rivets, and other damage.
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You are beating the trailer to death.

That type damage is typical of excessive rated tow vehicles, excessive rated hitch bars, lack of proper running gear balance, or bad rubber rods in the axle/axles.

Any one of the above, or more, is what you now have.

Your tow vehicle is really over kill even for a 34 foot Airstream.

Sorry.

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Thanks Andy for your frank and honest assessment of the situation.

I'm starting to get the impression that AS trailers aren't very special when it comes to their mechanical and electrical design. An AS TT is just another SOB with a pretty, curvy face. One look at how the cabinets were fastened tells quite a story.

Thought for the day: Perhaps the TV isn't overkill. Perhaps the AS is underkill.
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Thanks Andy for your frank and honest assessment of the situation.

I'm starting to get the impression that AS trailers aren't very special when it comes to their mechanical and electrical design. An AS TT is just another SOB with a pretty, curvy face. One look at how the cabinets were fastened tells quite a story.

Thought for the day: Perhaps the TV isn't overkill. Perhaps the AS is underkill.
Not really.

Streamline, Silver Streak and Avion, all did the same thing.

You don't beat an airplane to death, because on it's "monocoque type" construction.

Airstream and the other 3 brands, which unfortunately those three are history
all used the monocoque type construction.

Many things are designed within certain parameters. When those parameters are violated, then things can and do happen.

Airstreams indeed are tough and top notch.

But they are not impervious to damages when they are used by someones opinion, instead of facts.

Human nature is to use something many times to the extreme, and when doing so, sometimes that back fires.

Then the negative opinions come to the surface.

Sorry.

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An AS TT is just another SOB with a pretty, curvy face. One look at how the cabinets were fastened tells quite a story.

Thought for the day: Perhaps the TV isn't overkill. Perhaps the AS is underkill.
I'll remember that next time I am camping next to a park full of 1968 white boxes.
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I'm starting to get the impression that AS trailers aren't very special when it comes to their mechanical and electrical design. An AS TT is just another SOB with a pretty, curvy face. One look at how the cabinets were fastened tells quite a story.

Thought for the day: Perhaps the TV isn't overkill. Perhaps the AS is underkill.
Think of Airstreams as a piece of fine art. Treat them with respect, take care of them, and don't get rough with them and they will endure and be a great investment.

Airstream's were originally designed to be towed with family sedans, not HD trucks.
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Not really.

Streamline, Silver Streak and Avion, all did the same thing.


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Not really.
Avion has a proper frame. NO FRAME PROBLEMS.
Their frame absorbs road shock before it gets to the shell.
Ever wonder why Avions leak less? Its because the
shell flexes less because of their stiffer frame.
Look what happened to pickups lately, stronger frames.
Don't me for being blunt.
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