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Old 03-21-2015, 10:43 AM   #1
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Going nuts worried - Dodge ram 1500 25' flying clound

We bought a 25 flying cloud twin which has a published base weight of 5,600 lbs. with loaded weight max of 7,300 lbs.

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GCWR 12,000
GVWR 6,800
max trailer 6,400

Same truck with 17 inch wheels is rated
GCWR 13,000
max trailer 7,450

Do I get smaller wheels or a bigger truck? I bought the trailer, can't change that.
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Old 03-21-2015, 11:33 AM   #2
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Good truck? Good suspension? Weight distributing hitch? More thoughts to follow.
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Old 03-21-2015, 11:39 AM   #3
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We bought a 25 flying cloud twin which has a published base weight of 5,600 lbs. with loaded weight max of 7,300 lbs.

TV is
2009 Dodge Ram crew cab slt hemi.
3.55 axle
20 inch wheels
GCWR 12,000
GVWR 6,800
max trailer 6,400

Same truck with 17 inch wheels is rated
GCWR 13,000
max trailer 7,450

Do I get smaller wheels or a bigger truck? I bought the trailer, can't change that.
Where did you get these numbers? I don't recall ever seeing the tire size changing the tow rating of a RAM. The rear end ratio is usually what makes the difference. Does the truck with 17" wheels have a 3.92 rear end?
Your question brings more questions-
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Old 03-21-2015, 11:41 AM   #4
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If you have cat scales close by, I would load the trailer like you would for camping, to include a full tank of fresh water, then load your truck. Go to the scales, weigh your truck and camper hitched, then drop your trailer with the tongue on one scale, the axles on another scale and weigh again. You also need to weigh your truck un hitched with and axle on separate scales. After all that you will have a better picture of what to do.

I have a 25' FC rear twin and on several long trips, the most we weighed on the trailer was about 6,325 lbs and 880 on the tongue.

I would suspect you will be ok, but may be surprised about payload in your truck. Typically, 150's and 1500 series can max out pretty quick.
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Old 03-21-2015, 11:53 AM   #5
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Where did you get these numbers? I don't recall ever seeing the tire size changing the tow rating of a RAM. The rear end ratio is usually what makes the difference. Does the truck with 17" wheels have a 3.92 rear end?
Your question brings more questions-
No, both are 3.55

Found this info here

http://www.dodge.com/bodybuilder/200...r/mlup1500.pdf
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Just my opinion, but with a 25' and a 1/2 ton with the big engine, I wouldn't worry about it. I'd get a good hitch, make sure it's setup correctly, and go.
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Just my opinion, but with a 25' and a 1/2 ton with the big engine, I wouldn't worry about it. I'd get a good hitch, make sure it's setup correctly, and go.
^^good advice^^

You can enter your VIN on the RAM website here.
Ram Trucks - Towing Capacity Chart
Click on the red button that reads "LOOK UP MY VEHICLE"
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^^good advice^^

You can enter your VIN on the RAM website here.
Ram Trucks - Towing Capacity Chart
Click on the red button that reads "LOOK UP MY VEHICLE"

Yea, I did that, my VIN doesn't work . It seems I have fallen prey to my own ignorance and misleading information from RV dealers. Woe is me.
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Is your truck equipped with the tow package? If so. Hitch it up correctly and go. Be aware of the payload which includes the tongue weight of the coach. This weigh subtracts from what the truck can carry as weight in the bed and cab.


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Just my opinion, but with a 25' and a 1/2 ton with the big engine, I wouldn't worry about it. I'd get a good hitch, make sure it's setup correctly, and go.
Steve hit the nail on the head. Your truck is more than capable, but getting the numbers right is only part of the game. You can be well within specs and still have a terrible towing experience, if your hitch isn't set up correctly.

Good tires with stiff sidewalls, well dialled in Weight distribution and effective sway control are just as important, if not more important, than checking payload etc.
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Yea, I did that, my VIN doesn't work . It seems I have fallen prey to my own ignorance and misleading information from RV dealers. Woe is me.
Your VIN should work on that site, but make sure you are not making the mistake I made first checking mine it that I was typing a 0 (zero) where an O (oh) went. If you make a mistake like that, it will not work.
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Just my opinion, but with a 25' and a 1/2 ton with the big engine, I wouldn't worry about it. I'd get a good hitch, make sure it's setup correctly, and go.

I concur.


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OMG, what are you thinking with that truck, you'll probably die the moment the Airstream touches the hitch. ((3/4 ton Airforum Ford owners ))



Dude, seriously relax. You are going to be more than fine. Talking from experience here. Just be SMART about your load.

Andy said it best, getting that hitch dialed in will make all the difference in ride comfort and stability.
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Old 03-21-2015, 03:15 PM   #14
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Your VIN should work on that site, but make sure you are not making the mistake I made first checking mine it that I was typing a 0 (zero) where an O (oh) went. If you make a mistake like that, it will not work.

Yes, I tried it with a 0 and a o.

Here is the chart I spoke of earlier.
It clearly shows the increased towing capacity of my truck with 17" wheels rather than my 20''.

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