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Old 06-05-2016, 09:10 AM   #29
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Looking at the FLT video of the diesel model its not that impressive. The previous post with the gas version sounds like a better and more affordable alternative. Whats the payload sticker on the drivers door show as available load?

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Yeah, we did that hill with our 60 air-cooled horsepower VW Camper forty years ago, wasn't impressive either but that's not why we have a camper.

If you want to learn something about loading, perhaps ask the member hw they manage the load capacities of their overall Airstream towing combo, with the understanding that those under warranties may not wish to publicize the loads they carry, the speeds they travel, the temperatures of running gear, as well as road and weather conditions traveled.

We just got our regular monthly vehicle report that monitors powertrain, oil and fluids, brakes and suspension, safety equipment, TPMS and exact mileage traveled, and services due. We haven't been to a dealer since we bought it, the info is coming to them through the internet. Vehicle computers store it. I like the reminders to a point. I have no idea of the use of this info relative to warranty. I would imagine severe abuse may be recognized, that's fair enough, we don't severely abuse our vehicles.
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Old 06-05-2016, 09:35 AM   #30
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If the test hill is either side of the hill leading up to Eisenhower Tunnel on I70 in Colorado I think it is extremely impressive. But in the video the TFL guys give different and lower fuel mileage numbers for a V6 tested last year.

Too bad they don't have real towing mirrors.
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Old 06-06-2016, 06:29 AM   #31
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Hi Kelvin--looked on door & found this info: 1)--combined weight of occupants & cargo should not be more than 1,391 LBS.
2)--GVWR is 6,000 #'s
is # 1 the payload everyone speaks of?---& #2 (I believe) is weight of the Canyon ..Gross vehicle weight ?, --what does R stand for?
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Old 06-06-2016, 08:05 AM   #32
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Yes. #1 is payload. R = Rating
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Old 06-06-2016, 08:42 AM   #33
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Growing up, the library was one of my best friends. Now I can be lazy and use the internet.

GVWR explained

http://www.onlinetowingguide.com/guidelines/gvwr.html
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Old 06-07-2016, 09:39 AM   #34
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Here is a link to the 2016 TRAILERING GUIDE. It has all the figures you should need to do the calculations for all the number cruncher s out there.

https://www.gmc.com/content/dam/GMC/...wing-guide.pdf
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Old 06-07-2016, 11:48 PM   #35
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Test drove today.

I test drove several Colorados today. While I am in the market for a truck, I feel I am relatively unbiased as a consumer. I've owned about everything.
For $42k for the diesel Colorado you have to be silly to buy it. I know it has a niche but it just felt plain cheap compared to my old taco and jeep and all the subsequent 1/2 Chevy gmcs I drove today. And the F150 my friend owns if your all are keeping score. Every bit of it from material to get up and go to suspension and steering felt... less up to par than the highly competitive larger trucks. I even gave to v6 Colorado a go to compromise on the price. With most 1/2 tons selling a good 10k off msrp I have to wonder how the demands stays so high for these puppies. Bang for the buck is certainly not there.
I am disappointed but guess I expected a wonder truck. Set my self up disappointment.
With an airstream purchase in my future (I'm thinking 25' now that I've been on the forum for workamping) I am looking at a 2015 GMC 1500 SLT 4x4 with 30k miles on a 5.3 V8 for $30k. I really wish there was something smaller with the power. There is a diesel grand Cherokee there though with 7600 towing...
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Old 06-08-2016, 06:44 AM   #36
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Actual purchase price is in favor of full size pickups. We went to a Dodge/Ram dealership to shop a Durango Hemi for our Airstream 25, they had one in stock and would not discount it much. They had 256 Ram pickups in stock, the discounts were very deep, incentives terrific, and 100K power train warranty on the Ecodiesel models.

We bought the pickup, after towing 4,000 miles and comfort as a daily driver we're very happy with it. Would rather have the 120" wheelbase than our truck's 140" wheelbase, and full independent suspension, but this is working for us.
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Old 06-08-2016, 08:22 AM   #37
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The other side of the coin ...

We spend 1/2 of our time in the USA and 1/2 in Mexico. We have a short bed xtra cab super duty and neither of us is crazy about driving it in the cities of either country - BIG, thirsty. It is a great tow vehicle and wonderful in a rural setting. We like our AS and if it doesn't sell, that's fine. We have a rural property so we want a truck not a Cherokee or a Touareg etc. for the thing trucks do that pretty Jeep things can't without a junk trailer. Plus the engineer in me likes that it is built on a chassis and not a unibody.

The other day we looked at both the GMC and the Chevy - sadly neither was a diesel. But we liked what we saw and when the time comes we'll likely order one. In Mexico you can get a Ford Ranger with a diesel as well as the VW Amarok - but neither in the USA. So this little truck works for us.

The salesman was frustrated because he couldn't steer us to the full size trucks. Dealerships generally get frustrated with me because I almost never buy the tricked out overpriced junk they have on their lots. When I built my own diesel on the GMC website it came out around $36k (2wd ... no need for 4wd).

The process reminded me of when I was stationed at Ft Campbell KY before the internet was as friendly as it is now. I wanted a certain car with certain specs. We'd be out driving, see a dealership, stop and ask - and were always told that car doesn't exist as they tried to get us to buy what they had on the lot. One salesman started cussing me and following me as I headed back to my truck, the then wife (also a paratrooper) suggested he back off before things got ugly.

One day I stopped at the local dealship, went straight to the sales manager, told him I was stationed at Ft Campbell and what I wanted. He took my phone number and said to give him a couple of days. When I got home (a fifteen minute drive), I had a message saying the car had been found, but they would need a couple of days to go get it (it was in Texas).

Ho-hum ...
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The process reminded me of when I was stationed at Ft Campbell KY before the internet was as friendly as it is now. I wanted a certain car with certain specs. We'd be out driving, see a dealership, stop and ask - and were always told that car doesn't exist as they tried to get us to buy what they had on the lot. One salesman started cussing me and following me as I headed back to my truck, the then wife (also a paratrooper) suggested he back off before things got ugly.

One day I stopped at the local dealship, went straight to the sales manager, told him I was stationed at Ft Campbell and what I wanted. He took my phone number and said to give him a couple of days. When I got home (a fifteen minute drive), I had a message saying the car had been found, but they would need a couple of days to go get it (it was in Texas).

Ho-hum ...
I soooo agree with you. It is so frustrating listening to those guys nay say when you know it isn't the way they say it is. I use the USAA car buying service and you can make a Colorado for $32,600 with a diesel. But that would have to have them order that from factory for you.
That was my plan till I sat in it and drove it. The Z71 just felt like a civic interior and ride vs an audi s4. I do look forward to this market segment getting more attention and competition.
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GMC Canyon/Chevy Colorado 2.9 Diesel

Seems like the Ridgeline and Tacoma would be viable options in this arena, along with the Frontier and new small Ford truck when it comes out.


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I've had a couple of dealers cringe when I say USAA ... Hahahaa!!!!
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I don't have a gmc or canyon. I do have a 3.6l Jeep Grand Cherokee diesel that I tow my 31' airstream with. I would imagine the 2.7l would easily tow a small rv.
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GMC Canyon/Chevy Colorado 2.9 Diesel

Interestingly strange comment since the GMC/Chevy is good for 7,700# and the Jeep is good for 7,400#.
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