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Old 01-14-2014, 03:55 PM   #15
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Yes, it needs both. At the time Onstar was developed, there wasn't even 2G. Data transmission over cellular wasn't feasible. Presently, voice communication is cellular and all the other logistics and data stream info is satellite. GPS location is satellite. Map updates for nav are now satellite....since the discs have disappeared. Vehicle software updates(where vehicle electrical architecture allows) is satellite.
All the telematics, which are soon to be offered to fleets, is satellite. Stolen vehicle slowdown, airbag deployment notification, etc. is all satellite.

Blue button is cellular. Red button is satellite........

So, in short, yes it is a mix. More holes in voice communication, but there can be holes in satellite. If your handheld GPS can't get a signal, then neither can Onstar, for the most part.

Presently it IS the verizon map, as Verizon is the cellular carrier. Will be moving to AT&T in future products...along with new services.
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Old 01-15-2014, 05:53 AM   #16
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Been with Verizon continuously since 1988. I have had excellent US coverage driving from AZ to Indiana many times over the years.

Messed with AT & T with 1st iPhone and had to give up as I did not get usable signal in Phoenix, Santa Fe, NM and Bloomington, IN (with Indiana University and over 30,000 students).

Really nice to hear how the NSA can shut your car down as well as listen to the on board conversations. But they could do that through the television in your home as well.

Gee, George Orwell had it correct a long time ago and he was raised in a back water country called Burma and was talking about the dictatorship there in the 60s and it really applies to today.
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Old 01-15-2014, 07:11 AM   #17
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Been with Verizon continuously since 1988. I have had excellent US coverage driving from AZ to Indiana many times over the years.

Messed with AT & T with 1st iPhone and had to give up as I did not get usable signal in Phoenix, Santa Fe, NM and Bloomington, IN (with Indiana University and over 30,000 students).

Really nice to hear how the NSA can shut your car down as well as listen to the on board conversations. But they could do that through the television in your home as well.

Gee, George Orwell had it correct a long time ago and he was raised in a back water country called Burma and was talking about the dictatorship there in the 60s and it really applies to today.
These Orwellian urban myths have been around for a long time and are either patently untrue or are greatly misunderstood. Onstar is only authorized to slow down a car by order of validated law enforcement request. Onstar can't listen into the car without a tone and voice announcement. (that's law). The black box can and does record the DATASTREAM (not voice) about 45 seconds before an air bag deployment and about 45 seconds after....so don't lie about the facts surrounding an accident. Lawyers can and do subpoena that info from time to time.
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Old 01-15-2014, 09:25 AM   #18
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We got off topic...and I'm guilty...sorry for that. FYI, I just went and had the recall performed. 1 hour total from drive up to drive away, with an appointment. No issues with the re-calibration.
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Old 01-15-2014, 09:49 AM   #19
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My truck is included in the recall. I spoke to the dealer to confirm it. I was told there are two recalls on my truck at this point. (1)To check the torque on a pinion nut and (2)the reprograming. I was told to not worry about it, unless I was going to be in extreme cold weather, and they would take care of it at my next service. Or they told me to come in if I was concerned and it would take less than an hour to take care of everything.

I think, but not positive, the reprograming is for gas engine vehicles. Has anyone heard for sure?
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My truck is included in the recall. I spoke to the dealer to confirm it. I was told there are two recalls on my truck at this point. (1)To check the torque on a pinion nut and (2)the reprograming. I was told to not worry about it, unless I was going to be in extreme cold weather, and they would take care of it at my next service. Or they told me to come in if I was concerned and it would take less than an hour to take care of everything.

I think, but not positive, the reprograming is for gas engine vehicles. Has anyone heard for sure?
It's specific to the new Chevrolet and GMC 1500s, so it's only for gasoline engines.
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Specific to 4.3 and 5.3 liters only. Not 6.2L

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