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Old 11-30-2009, 07:25 PM   #57
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Annie,

If you are going to just move your Airstream a few times a year as you have stated, and not really travel with it, I think a gasser is a much better choice. Just my opinion.
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Old 11-30-2009, 09:53 PM   #58
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airstream annie? HAHAHAHA! thats great! i never thought about that.

Gaylejoe... thats a great idea.... i think i'll go out somewhere tomorrow and see what
people are using to haul those 5th wheelers.

i think i will most likely be moving myself maybe 4 times a year... definitely wont be on the road that much unless i am going to some new place to stay for a few months.
i would love a diesel but..... the tow vehicle is also going to be my daily driver when i go out to do something... wherever i am.

i am constantly out looking around at my environment...whether i am in a city or out in the wide open spaces. i dont know why but i just like getting around to see where i am living.

so....i want to make sure i have a TV that will get decent milage when its not pulling.
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Old 12-01-2009, 01:17 AM   #59
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like i said.... i do love the dodge cumins diesel but.... dont know what kind of dependability i would get with a dodge ram.
I wouldn't be too concerned about Ram reliability
I have 537,000 on my 99 dodge with Cummins. I have seen several with over a million miles with no engine teardown.
I did drill the ball joints and install grease fittings and all my front end parts are original.
The air conditioning has been a bit of a problem, but overall the best truck I ever owned
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Old 12-01-2009, 09:05 AM   #60
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I wouldn't be too concerned about Ram reliability
I have 537,000 on my 99 dodge with Cummins. I have seen several with over a million miles with no engine teardown.
I did drill the ball joints and install grease fittings and all my front end parts are original.
The air conditioning has been a bit of a problem, but overall the best truck I ever owned

thats great Rick. i know that cummins diesel has a good reputation.
wish i could find a decent dodge truck guy at a dealership that knew what he was talking about.
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Old 12-01-2009, 09:46 AM   #61
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OK..... i am gonna pull my hair out ! i cant find a decent dodge dealership that has a truck guy that knows what hes talking about.
DOES ANYONE HAVE THE NAME OF A GUY AT ANY DODGE DEALERSHIP THAT I CAN CALL?

PLEASE ..... tell me where to find him. LOL

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Old 12-01-2009, 11:18 AM   #62
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Online resources

A good online resource for Ford Diesels is http://www.thedieselstop.com/.
Its centered on Fords, the old name was www.ford-diesel.com untill a certian piece of litigation initated the name change.

In there you'll find loads of information on what people like about the trucks and what they hate about them.
I dont know of any for Chevy or Dodge (because I havent owned/fixed them yet), but I'm sure theres comperable sights for each brand.
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A good online resource for Ford Diesels is http://www.thedieselstop.com/.
Its centered on Fords, the old name was www.ford-diesel.com untill a certian piece of litigation initated the name change.

In there you'll find loads of information on what people like about the trucks and what they hate about them.
I dont know of any for Chevy or Dodge (because I havent owned/fixed them yet), but I'm sure theres comperable sights for each brand.
Hi...thanks alot i will check them out. maybe i will post this dodge truck request as another thread.
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SELECT/buy the trailer FIRST, sort out (finalize) the tv 2nd.

UNLESS u plan to buy a modern 3/4 ton or larger truck, which can handle everything a/s makes.

i see lots of gyrations here about 200,000 miles or 500,000 mile reliability.

that doesn't seem especially relevant, YET and perhaps not at all UNLESS buying a high mileage USED truck.

and IF there is something SPECIFIC about any of the TV brands/models/sizes relative to towing...

'dealer/sales' people won't be nearly as useful as the crowd HERE.

so for SPECIFIC truck issues (details) just post the question.

but solve the trailer size/weight/era problem first.

year end incentives/discounts on trucks are nice but select the wrong one and the savings vanish.

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Old 12-01-2009, 11:48 AM   #65
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Annie,

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IMO, most dealer salesmen don't know their butt from a hole in the ground. I'd recommend figuring out what you want, doing your homework on the truck you decide to determine best model years, upgrades, options etc and then going to the dealer and tell them what you want or just search the internet until you find the truck you want, then go buy it.

Since you don't want extended or crew cabs, and most folks do, you will likely find good deals on regular cab pre-owned trucks, or even new trucks for that matter.
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Old 12-01-2009, 12:00 PM   #67
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SELECT/buy the trailer FIRST, sort out (finalize) the tv 2nd.

UNLESS u plan to buy a modern 3/4 ton or larger truck, which can handle everything a/s makes.

i see lots of gyrations here about 200,000 miles or 500,000 mile reliability.

that doesn't seem especially relevant, YET and perhaps not at all UNLESS buying a high mileage USED truck.

and IF there is something SPECIFIC about any of the TV brands/models/sizes relative to towing...

'dealer/sales' people won't be nearly as useful as the crowd HERE.

so for SPECIFIC truck issues (details) just post the question.

but solve the trailer size/weight/era problem first.

year end incentives/discounts on trucks are nice but select the wrong one and the savings vanish.

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what i am trying to do here is just collect information so i can make a decision about what to buy. i am not buying the TV first. i will get the
AS first but i want to know certain things.

i have a general idea now what i would like in a trailer and the weight should be under 8K pounds. i am not going for a big one so anything modern in the 25ft to 28ft range should be alot lighter than the bigger ones i was thinking about.

right now i am looking for information only.
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what i am trying to do here is just collect information so i can make a decision about what to buy...

i have a general idea now what i would like in a trailer and the weight should be under 8K pounds. i am not going for a big one so anything modern in the 25ft to 28ft range...
IF 25 is max size any modern 1/2 ton gas truck will match up nicely...

problem solved.
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but 28 (27s are longer than 28s) is the 3/4 ton zone...

yes there are folks towing modern 28s or larger, with 1/2 trucks, but some of these folks LEASE and trade often...

which avoids the 'wear' issue on the 1/2 tons with bigger trailers.

the towing spec's for ALL modern 1/2 tons suggest capability up to 10k, but details often bring this figure DOWN.

while regular cab size IMPROVES the payload the shorter wheelbase then becomes an issue.

the new 150s have BIG mirrors and a INTEGRATED brake controller both good things to have for towing.

and NOT included on the other modern 1/2 ton'rs.

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so for SPECIFIC truck issues (details) just post the question.

but solve the trailer size/weight/era problem first...
there are lots of examples HERE of folks being ABSOLUTELY SURE the 25 is their size...

only to figure out a 27 or 28 is REALLY what they wanted.

typically this is followed by the 'now i need a tiny bit bigger tv too' realization.

this scenario is SO common it's got a name.
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keep collecting info, it's the only properly priced offering here.

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IF 25 is max size any modern 1/2 ton gas truck will match up nicely...

problem solved.
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but 28 (27s are longer than 28s) is the 3/4 ton zone...

yes there are folks towing modern 28s or larger, with 1/2 trucks, but some of these folks LEASE and trade often...

which avoids the 'wear' issue on the 1/2 tons with bigger trailers.

the towing spec's for ALL modern 1/2 tons suggest capability up to 10k, but details often bring this figure DOWN.

while regular cab size IMPROVES the payload the shorter wheelbase then becomes an issue.

the new 150s have BIG mirrors and a INTEGRATED brake controller both good things to have for towing.

and NOT included on the other modern 1/2 ton'rs.



there are lots of examples HERE of folks being ABSOLUTELY SURE the 25 is their size...

only to figure out a 27 or 28 is REALLY what they wanted.

typically this is followed by the 'now i need a tiny bit bigger tv too' realization.

this scenario is SO common it's got a name.
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keep collecting info, it's the only properly priced offering here.

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i just got off the phone with a dodge truck guy from a dealership that REALLY sells ALOT of trucks and FINALLY i have most of my questions answered in terms of price and such.

so now i have a good idea about what i will need to spend for what i want....depending on what i buy.

am not interested in a shorter wheelbase. only 145'' with a regular cab is what i am looking at.
i wont be buying anything till i get the AS..... for now just collecting information.
thanks for your input.
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Hi All, new to the forums and to the Airstream experience.

Annie,
I just went through a similar experience. Getting an AS and a matching TV in a single swoop. I end up getting a 2005 30' Safari with the bunk beds layout.
Initially I was going to get a gas pickup truck, a Toyota Tundra for the job.
When I added:
- Passengers weight
- Cargo weight (in the truck bed)
- AS Tongue weight

The total was uncomfortably close to the truck Payload Capacity. It looks like all 1500 type/series trucks are around the 1600~1900lbs.
This send me into the 2500 territory. Once there the Gas vs. Diesel question came into play. Form my experience, it seems that in the 2500s, the available inventory was predominately Diesel. Through my research, I end up with a bias towards GMC due to the Allison Transmission.
Plus, during the month that I was shopping around, GM heavily discounted their new trucks...up to 8K.
I end up buying form this dealership in Idaho:
Dave Smith Motors - Kellogg, Idaho - 1-800-635-8000 - New or Used - Dodge, Chrysler, Jeep, Ram, Chevrolet, Buick, GMC, Pontiac, Cadillac.

The local dealerships (Texas) couldn't (or wouldn't) match these guys prices. Not even adding the delivery charge.
I told them that I wanted this truck for towing. They added a brake controller (Prodigy), and the factory towing mirrors.

Hope this helps.

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