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Old 11-28-2009, 03:18 PM   #29
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Old 11-28-2009, 03:57 PM   #30
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I have read on various threads about expensive normal maintenance on diesels. Perhaps some specifics on that would help Annie.

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I have read on various threads about expensive normal maintenance on diesels. Perhaps some specifics on that would help Annie.

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Diesels are more expensive to maintain and the regular maint is a must. Filters must be changed at required intervals. My maint interval is 7,500 miles. My old car was 5,000.
I pay about $300 for the "small" visits and $450-600 for the big ones. This is the price for the extra power. ok torque.
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Old 11-28-2009, 05:06 PM   #32
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Diesels are more expensive to maintain and the regular maint is a must. Filters must be changed at required intervals. My maint interval is 7,500 miles. My old car was 5,000.
I pay about $300 for the "small" visits and $450-600 for the big ones. This is the price for the extra power. ok torque.

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so what are the small visits? and what are the big visits?
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Old 11-28-2009, 05:13 PM   #33
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All I've done to my 7.3L Powerstroke is change the oil every 5k (15qts at about $12/gal so ~$50 in oil + $12 filter=$60-$65 per oil change if you DIY, which I do),the fuel filter once and it didn't even need it, and the air filter. I'm not sure why people think diesels cost more to maintain? Of course I've also changed the front and rear diff oil, transfer case oil and transmission fluid/filter change, but you need to do that with a gasser as well.

With a diesel you don't have any spark plugs to change, no plug wires to burn up on the headers, no ignition system, etc.

another thing I do, is try to only fill up at big rig truck stops. The fuel is usually fresher since they get more traffic, always a good thing. I've never (knock on wood) had a bad tank yet (ie water or other crap in it). I have a truck stop only about 10 min from my house so that is where I usually go.
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thanks alot.
so what are the small visits? and what are the big visits?
Small visits are 7,500, 15,000 22,500, 37,500, 45,000 ....
Big Visits are about every 30,000 miles. Lots of greasing, changing more than just oil. I forget the specifics. 60,000 was my last big one. About $600.

Since you have a heavier truck you will go through tires faster. Mine weights 8,100 lbs empty. It has topped out at it's max weight of 10,000 lbs.

Oil changes and Fuel filter changes can be a DIY job. If that is all that needs to be done I will do it myself unless it is -30 outside.
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Small visits are 7,500, 15,000 22,500, 37,500, 45,000 ....
Big Visits are about every 30,000 miles. Lots of greasing, changing more than just oil. I forget the specifics. 60,000 was my last big one. About $600.

Since you have a heavier truck you will go through tires faster. Mine weights 8,100 lbs empty. It has topped out at it's max weight of 10,000 lbs.

Oil changes and Fuel filter changes can be a DIY job. If that is all that needs to be done I will do it myself unless it is -30 outside.
what you describe is maintenance on any 3/4 or larger truck--gasser or diesel.

Diesels typically have more oil capacity and require fuel filter changes more often, but other than that, maintenance is no different than any other heavy truck.
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The regular maintenance isn't what's expensive on a diesel. It's repairs. Most dealership service departments will rape you if your truck is an out-of-warranty diesel, even for minor repairs. Parts for diesels tend to be expensive as well, so even a reasonable mechanic may not always help things if you have major engine trouble.
On the positive side, even a 34' Airstream is not enough load to cause modern diesels to even break a sweat. So, most diesels are going to last a loooooong time towing one.
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i have NOT selected an AS just yet.... but it might be a heavy one...maybe 10K pounds plus if i decide on a 30ft.

i am starting to think about what truck to buy. whats your opinion for either gas or diesel ? and why?

i would love a dodge ram diesel but if gas is going to be a better bet for price that would be ok as well.

what do you think?

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I wanted to make this a one word thread, just diesel. At this point, you are probably are no closer, go with what makes you happy. Flip a coin and if it is heads, it's Diesel and Tails its a gasser.

Now when you flip the coin, if it comes up tails and you like it or comes up heads and you don't, get a gasser. Conversely, if you flip and it comes up heads and you have that happy feeling, or tails and you are disappointed, go with the Diesel. This is a very scientific method which has solved 1000's of life altering decisions in our house.

I will say that a Diesel is really nice on big hills, heavy loads and gives a lot more choices in tow capacity. No whether that is true or not is a different story. But I really like having the Diesel. FWIW which is very little.

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I could not afford to full-time without the diesel.....15mpg!
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Mike and John... you guys are funny. thanks for that. what i really want is that cummins diesel. i have always loved the sound of it. LOL

but i dont know.... its all about what i should allow myself to spend as i really dont have unlimited money for ALL of this. LOL

i'll just have to see what AS i eventually buy and go from there.

thanks again for the chuckle.
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Annie, maybe you should flip the coin about the trailer and see what's left over for a truck, though you could end up with a 34' Classic towed (not very far) by a 1970 Microbus.

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I have had both gas and diesel. I towed with the GM 454, Ford 460, the newer Ford V10 and I currently I have an 07 Ford 6.0 diesel. We tow around 20,000 miles per year and when it is time to change trucks I will go back to the Ford V10. The 6.0 diesel has right at 81,000 miles on it with not a hiccup. My gripe is the cost of oil and filter changes, the noise, how long it takes to heat up and the initial cost of buying the diesel option. We put 120,000 miles on the V10 over three years and the only service we had to perform was an alternator at 85,000 and a tune up at 100,000. Towing wise it performed as well as the diesel. Most of our towing is through the mountains of New Mexico and Colorado where those long grades will separate the men from the boys. Economy wise we get appoximately 2 miles per gallon more with the diesel towing. The V10 achieved a consistent 10-11 and the diesel a consistent 12-13.

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Old 11-29-2009, 08:04 PM   #42
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Hi Flmgrip..... i am free as a bird because i have an online job and i NOW have mobile broadband. so i can pretty much work anywhere i want to.
if i cant get a signal out in the boonies then i wouldnt consider staying there for a season. but there are PLENTY of places to go where my laptop computer will do just fine.

and.... like i said..... a season to me is anytime i have to close my windows so i cant have fresh air flowing thru. LOL i am not talking about a cold snap.... i mean when the area i am in starts to be TOO COLD for that. ..... or conversely..... TOO HOT as in the desert climates. i dont like heating or air conditioning... or being cooped up inside with no fresh air.

as long as the sun is shining and the breezes are blowing..... thats where i want to be. i've set my life up to be child free and debt free so i am good to go with an AS ....till i get too old to do it. LOL

so....why not? if it werent for technology i guess i wouldnt be able to do this..... but time has finally arrived. AND.... i intend to enjoy it for as long as possible.

no reason to be statonary anymore.
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