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Old 08-23-2016, 11:15 AM   #1
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Gas or Diesel

I have a 2003 22 ft CCD GVW 5k and thinking about getting a Chevy Colorado and canít decide between the gas or diesel version. Iíve never owned a diesel and it is an almost $4k premium over the gas but it does have the integrated trailer brake controller, exhaust brake, automatic 4wd system and much better gas mileage. Iím currently towing with a 2014 Silverado and itís effortless. Downsizing is the goal here, I know my Silverado is overkill even though it's a great truck. Iíve towed with a mid-sized truck before (Frontier) with disastrous results so would like to make the right decision without regrets.

Any advice would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

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Old 08-23-2016, 11:36 AM   #2
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Why switch? The Silverado is working well and is not that much larger than a Colorado. Why spend the money?

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Old 08-23-2016, 11:39 AM   #3
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Just had a friend roll a 23 pulling it with a mid-size truck and a Reese. IMHO, if you have a full size truck, you should stick with it. Longer wheel base, more weight, etc. Sure, lot's of people tow with SUV's and mid-size trucks but I think you already have a better tow vehicle.
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Old 08-23-2016, 12:33 PM   #4
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We had a similar choice earlier this year, Ram 1500 with 5.7 gas Hemi or 3.0 EcoDiesel. Our previous 2012 Ram Hemi gas engine was terrific, and so are the small turbodiesel engines we have had in VW's the past 15 years.

We got the EcoDiesel and are very happy with it, it tows our Airstream smoothly with plenty of power and engine compression braking. The greatest advantages are less transmission shifting on grades due to the diesel's low rpm torque, and remarkable fuel economy. Since new the truck has averaged 24.9 mpg overall (half of that towing), we expect 28-29 mpg highway 65 mph and 16-17 mpg towing our Airstream 63-65 mph in normal conditions and roadways.

Very important features of our Ecodiesel are 8-speed transmission for smooth engine operation, economy, and braking, and 3.92 axle ratio for easier towing.

Neither gas or diesel engine trucks have ever been in the shop for repairs, same with our 2006 VW diesel. The small diesels have been good to us.
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Old 08-23-2016, 12:56 PM   #5
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Honestly, in my experience, there's very little difference between gasser and diesel, AFA towing power goes.
My Suburban 8.1L gas had plenty of power, as does my current 2003 Ford E-350 7.3 Power Stroke Diesel. I suppose MPG is a bit better with the diesel.

If we're comparing strictly diesel-gas, I guess the only real benefit (for me) is the simplicity of the Ford PSD. The Chevy 496ci and 4L80E transmission was an electronics nightmare. Any little problem needed in depth diagnosis with proprietary tools.

The Ford is the exact opposite. That's not to say there isn't any electronics, it's just so much more primitive.
Simple. I love simple.

Too bad, after seeing some modern diesels at Woodward Dream Cruise, I think simplicity is long gone.
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Old 08-23-2016, 02:18 PM   #6
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We would not trade, but then our second vehicle is a 2001 and we hope it lasts another 10-20 years. Sunk cost is sunk cost - use it or lose it.

Did know a lady who's father traded his new Cadillac every 3 months. He liked a new car and there was a line of customers for his cars. He thought it saved him money and the customers knew it saved them time, because he worked out the bugs. Of course that was 30 years ago when cars had bugs.

Diesel vs gas is a valid question. Lots of miles makes diesel a better option. It may be a great option in the future as bio diesel is developed. When we looked for our last purchase, diesel was more expensive than gas. Now it's less expensive. Diesel was real cheap in BC Canada this summer. Who knows what it will cost next year. If you don't drive many miles or are going to trade every 2-3 years, go gas. If you drive lots of miles and plan to keep it for a long time, go diesel - but not a first year model.
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Now - Rolled a 23????? Are the people OK? Is there a thread about the incident? What happened? What was learned? Were any tires hurt?
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No thread. They are not forum members. Truck passed them down grade in the Poconos. Sway resulted, did not recover, trailer fishtailed, rolled, they hit the median divider. They are fine and have recovered physically and mentally.
They now have a RAM ecodiesel and are shopping for another 23.

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Diesels stink. The exhaust stinks and the fuel stinks. Get some diesel on your shoes, etc and you'll smell it all day.
I have both gas and diesel tractors.
If I start a diesel in the shed it's like breathing Zyklon B.
Yes diesels are more efficient fuel wise but gassers are far more pleasant to operate.
I would never want to be around a stinky, noisy diesel if I was traveling and wanted to stay clean.
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Old 08-23-2016, 03:44 PM   #9
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I personally would not down size from a full sized truck to a Colorado for towing if I was going to do much towing. Are they actually delivering the Colorado diesel now? A few months ago they were supposed to be extremely rare, if existing at all. I do not really agree with the "overkill" label. If I did make such a move I guess I would look at the diesel pretty hard. I sure do like towing with our 2500 Dodge diesel. (yeah, maybe "overkill", but boy, it tows nice). I had a Dakota. And my son a Tacoma. Both beat the heck out of me when driving or riding. Hope the Colorado rides better.
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I've never gotten diesel or gas on my shoes. I've been driving 50 years,. Some of us on here have no experience with the new diesels. Things have changed in the last few years.
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Gasoline engines are equal in durability these days and it's far easier to find a mechanic and fuel than diesel. And they're quieter. And they're easier to operate in really cold weather. And there's no DEF to have to mess with. And the fuel, when you can find diesel, is more expensive than gasoline....so there goes the supposed economy.
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Old 08-23-2016, 08:28 PM   #12
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Thanks everyone. Can always count on the best help from this forum!

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It's a personal preference. See if you can try both. I also agree there is no overkill.
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Diesels stink. The exhaust stinks and the fuel stinks. Get some diesel on your shoes, etc and you'll smell it all day.
I have both gas and diesel tractors.
If I start a diesel in the shed it's like breathing Zyklon B.
Yes diesels are more efficient fuel wise but gassers are far more pleasant to operate.
I would never want to be around a stinky, noisy diesel if I was traveling and wanted to stay clean.
Actually a new diesels exhaust smells better than a gas engine thanks to all the exhaust treatment systems. The ultra low sulfur diesel that's mandated is a lot cleaner and puts out a lot less odors, but it's best to keep all fuel of your shoes.

But the real question is how you well use your truck. If you're going to be running around town and doing frequent short trips ( under 10 miles) most of the time then a gas engine is a better choice. But as a dedicated tow vehicle diesel is the way to go hands down.
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