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Old 02-18-2012, 07:48 PM   #85
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Old 02-18-2012, 07:58 PM   #86
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So the later V10 gasser in the Excursion is a solid engine? A 2005 with leather, power everything is cheaper than a 2008 Tundra. I'd also have to purchase a nice color matched cap for the Tundra.

Running number on gas. 20,000 miles a years at $5 a gallon. 50% time towing. Excursion at 10mpg towing / 10 mpg not. Tundra 10.5 towing, 14 not. Excursion = $10,000 in gas a year. Tundra = $8333. $1667 in favor of the Tundra.
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There are a lot of factors that determine how good your brakes are and how long they last. Rotor thickness is a factor but other things like manufacturing techniques and uniformity of the castings can be a big factor. Also the diameter of the rotor is a factor. Usually larger is better because you have more mechanical advantage and more surface area. The size and number of pistons is important. A bad design would be a single piston caliper which creates hot spots on the pads and rotors. The larger the pistons and the more of them there are the better brakes you are going to have. If the rotors are too big and heavy the ride quality suffers because of unsprung weight. Same goes for the calipers they are heavy as well. If you don't change your brake fluid the boiling point goes down and the fluid can boil when you are descending a mountain, at that point, you have NO BRAKES at all. I have never had this happen on a car or truck but I have done it on a motorcycle before. All I can say, is find a forum for the truck you are looking at and spend some time there. I see cars all the time and some of them have little tiny rotors and I bet they wear out real fast. Those are the kinds of cars I walk away from.

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Well I paid $7k for my Excursion and a new truck is about $40k. Yeah if both trucks are free the Tundra is the way to go. Now take that $33k and see how many miles you can put on the Excursion or F250/F350 with a V10. My Excursion is a PIG on gas but it was cheap and it is easy to maintain. If you are not a good mechanic then it may not be a good deal for you.

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So the later V10 gasser in the Excursion is a solid engine? A 2005 with leather, power everything is cheaper than a 2008 Tundra. I'd also have to purchase a nice color matched cap for the Tundra.

Running number on gas. 20,000 miles a years at $5 a gallon. 50% time towing. Excursion at 10mpg towing / 10 mpg not. Tundra 10.5 towing, 14 not. Excursion = $10,000 in gas a year. Tundra = $8333. $1667 in favor of the Tundra.
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Old 02-18-2012, 08:13 PM   #89
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Well I paid $7k for my Excursion and a new truck is about $40k. Yeah if both trucks are free the Tundra is the way to go. Now take that $33k and see how many miles you can put on the Excursion or F250/F350 with a V10. My Excursion is a PIG on gas but it was cheap and it is easy to maintain. If you are not a good mechanic then it may not be a good deal for you.

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How many miles can I put on the V10? What type of things would one look out for? I can wrench when needed, but I don't want to bring many tools and work on it in parking lots.

This one has 77k and at $20k I could be loan free pretty quick,

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Old 02-18-2012, 08:17 PM   #90
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Personally I like that a lot better than a Tundra. Nothing against Toyota...it's just a different kind of vehicle.

I got as high as 17mpg running empty with mine. I doubt the Tundra would do much better.

The only problem I ever had with mine was the plug issue, but Ford says they totally corrected that in '03. Other than that, I just changed the oil and drove it. It really did pull a trailer nicely. You'd hardly notice your 25 footer at all behind it.

I think that looks like a really nice truck
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You probably want the factory tow package. This has the extending mirrors, more cooling for the transmission, and usually a lower geared axel. Whatever you buy, ask for a carfax on it. That truck looks pretty clean but I think it is a little on the high side at least in the south. In VT that maybe a different story. I have heard of V10's running 300,000 miles or more. THere is a ford Excursion forum at

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I would spend some time there before you buy and go look at some of them.

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Old 02-18-2012, 08:57 PM   #92
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You probably want the factory tow package. This has the extending mirrors, more cooling for the transmission, and usually a lower geared axel. Whatever you buy, ask for a carfax on it. That truck looks pretty clean but I think it is a little on the high side at least in the south. In VT that maybe a different story. I have heard of V10's running 300,000 miles or more. THere is a ford Excursion forum at

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I would spend some time there before you buy and go look at some of them.

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I was just browsing that other forum. The 2005 doesn't appear to have extending mirrors. Does that mean it does not have the tow package? (The features section mentions having it)
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No sir I don't.

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Do we really need these heavy duty trucks to pull an Airstream, if that is the only reason for having it. Another 'streamer just towed her small Airstream across country in winter weather with a VW Jetta.

Timmaah is needs this thing to double as a daily driver, his only transportation. If he can't figure how to lighten his load for full-timing, then that's where the advice should be directed. Not to bigger truck$.

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Do we really need these heavy duty trucks to pull an Airstream, if that is the only reason for having it. Another 'streamer just towed her small Airstream across country in winter weather with a VW Jetta.

Timmaah is needs this thing to double as a daily driver, his only transportation. If he can't figure how to lighten his load for full-timing, then that's where the advice should be directed. Not to bigger truck$.

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Nope not needed...but smart,IMO.

Mileage,longevity,and longer lasting suspension.

I use mine as a daily driver also for my business..no downside for me.

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Shane, it is smart for you, dumb for some others.

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Might be smart for others also....that's why we are hearing both sides.

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