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Old 09-09-2013, 04:05 PM   #1
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Fords EcoBoost Towing Capacity

I’m in need of some sound towing advice.

I don’t have a coach but I do have a 2011 Ford F-150 Echo Boost Super Crew with a Tow package. Which in includes the Brake Controller, heavy duty Transmission, (and Cooler.) My factory documentation says my configuration can tow 9800lbs.

To be safe should I not even think of say a 30f International Signature? It’s GVWR is 8800. The way I look at it I’m well under my capacity by 1000.

To confuse things my neighbor has an F-250 with a tow package and he tows a big ol Jayco Eagle 5th wheel. And I know that while his trucks tow rating can handle the unit base weight but not the Eagle’s GVWR. The eagles GVWR is at least 2000pds over his trucks towing capacity. He says he never, ever, ever puts that much cargo in his Eagle that would go over his Truck’s GVWR, (even when his tanks are full.) Yet he’s advising me that the most trailer I should be looking at is about 26f. Doesn’t think the Fords EchoBoost’s six cylinder is strong enough to control a coach near the factories GVWR ratings. He says I might be ok going to the local campground but I'd run into braking situations in the mountains and i'd be stomping on the gas peddle if just to keep it at 60 in flat ol Florida.

It seems that my truck is well suited to tow the majority of Airstream models based on their GVWR but I’m still a bit weary and would certainly appreciate some sage advice from the forum.



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Old 09-09-2013, 04:39 PM   #2
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Do you go around stirring up hornets' nests for fun?

If I were going to buy a new 30' Airstream, I'd probably get a 3/4 ton truck just to make everything easier.

I doubt that your Ecoboost would have any difficulty at all maintaining 60 on the highway, or even pulling up grades, but there's no free lunch. The economy advantages of the Ecoboost are when you're NOT towing, once you dip into the boost you'll pay at the pump.

A big diesel with an exhaust brake would make it easier to descend grades with a heavy trailer. That and your ability to travel with a half ton of firewood in the bed of the truck are the major advantages there, the Ecoboost will be a little short on cargo capacity if you like to pile lots of stuff and people into the truck while towing a trailer with a heavy tongue.

I like the fact that your neighbor is perfectly OK with exceeding his own truck's rated capacity but thinks you shouldn't do so.
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260hp are more than enough to move your trailer with confidence. Our tow vehicle's engine develops the same hp - at 60, we cruise at 2200rpm in fifth gear.

If you do lots of mountain driving, then a diesel is wonderful to have on declines but otherwise the trailer has brakes for a reason. A well set up rig should stop marginally faster than the tow vehicle on its own.
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Hi from AZ. . . you should search the Forums for Ecoboost or F150 for previous posts. I think you'll find several threads, containing LOTS of info, opinions, statistics, specs 'ad nauseum'. Really thought we'd worn that subject out. Good luck !, regards, Craig
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Old 09-09-2013, 05:12 PM   #5
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the first hurdle on the f150 is payload. if you don't carry much, it can work for you.
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First off your have 360 hp and 420 foot pounds of torque. More than enough power to pull it. I have 11 even 150 with ecoboost and I tow 8300 lb gvwr trailer with no problems. I would even say it is overpowered. My truck weighs over 6000lb will then md in it so I don't think it is too light. I have 3.73 reserved end and youbprobably don't. I don't think that is really a problem.
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Oh yeah and when I tow at 60 mph I get 12+ mph
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Old 09-09-2013, 08:28 PM   #9
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Thanks everyone this is perfect feedback.
Special call out o Big Al thanks especially.
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The most important rating is payload.

That is the limiting factor for what Airstream you can tow in most cases.
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Open up your driver’s side door and look for a sticker that will announce your "MAX PAYLOAD".

Subtract from this “Max Payload” number the following (it assumes a full tank of fuel and one 150 pound driver).
1. Your weight minus 150 pounds (I’m assuming with clothes you weigh more than 150lbs).
2. Your passengers weight (don't forget clothes).
3. Any aftermarket items (bed liner, cap, bumpers, carpet kits, etc.).
4. Subtract your luggage, cargo, etc.
4. This is your remaining payload capacity left over to support towing your trailer - subtract the tongue weight of the trailer you wish to purchase from this number, if you are negative then you have too much trailer.
5. Weight distribution will remove a few pounds of this weight from your vehicles axels but first add the weight of the new hitch, weight distribution bars, etc. as this adds to your tongue weight before a 100 -150 pounds is moved back to the trailers axels. Again, weight distribution hitches do not move a full 1/3 of the tongue weight back to the trailers axels, we have proven this on the forum via CAT scales by many members and this can be verified by both Hensley and ProPride folks.

Now remember, the tongue weight listed by Airstream is of an empty trailer, so the only real way to find out how much tongue weight your trailer has is to load up and hit the scales, but I think with the Truck you listed you will quickly find out you are limited to a 23 or 25 foot Airstream MAX.

Quick story - traded in fully loaded 2011 F-350 King Ranch for 2013 F-150 EcoBoost King Ranch as I was downsizing trailers from a 30 to a 27. After discovering the max payload of the F-150 EcoBoost inside the door jamb (the dealer told me no problem, I can tow over 9,000 lbs but never mentioned vehicle payload capacity) I had to return the truck back to Ford after less than one week of ownership, of course my F-350 was already sold and they would only give me the “trade-in” value of the truck so I purchased a 2013 Ram Cummins 2500.
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BTW - your Ford F-150 EcoBoost owners manual has a great narrative on max payload and how this number is affected, although they use "golfers" as the payload and don't even hook up a trailer....
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Payload Capacity seems to me to be a different thing than towing capacity. I would think that towing capacity is the capacity of a vehicle to tow something while payload capacity relates to the payload weight applied to a tow vehicle. Isn't tow capacity the ability of weight a tow vehilce can tow and payloade capacity is the weight that a tow vehicle can have applied to the axels. IE, wieght of the occupents, carpet, Liner, Gas, Hitch weight. I gues what i'm asking is even if they are related paylode and tow capacity are two different things.
Also, regarding taking trailor prospective trailer to a wiegh station isn't really feasable. In that most sellers, regardless of if they are private owners or dealers arent' going to let you simply, 'test drive', the trailer to a wiegh station to find out if your truck can handle it.
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Payload Capacity seems to me to be a different thing than towing capacity.
Very much so.
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