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Old 03-09-2009, 07:52 PM   #43
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Control. That's the word I always hear from people preferring manuals to automatics. I can control my speed better, I can control my load better. I can control my rpms better, I can even control my fuel mileage better with a stick.

The new Dodge diesel auto comes with a feature called "electronic range selector." It's the autostick for trucks. I assume Ford and GM have something similar. In normal mode you have a six speed auto where 4th gear is direct and 5th and 6th are overdrive. In ESR mode 5th is direct and you get one extra underdrive gear. The driver can select the highest gear. For example if the driver selects ESR 3 - then the transmission will not shift above 3rd gear. These trucks also have exhaust brakes now as standard equipment. When engaged - anytime you are going over 5 or 10 miles per hour, regardless of gear, if you let off of the accelerator the exhaust brake is activated. Add anti-lock brakes and electronic stability control and and I'd say that's about all the control needed.

Automatics transmissions are a consumable commodity. You are eventually going to use one up. If you don't mind manually shifting gears or like Woody, prefer shifting gears, then you will save a lot of money in repairs and upkeep over time with a manual transmission. That is the best, maybe only argument these days to opt for the stick.

The control and improved dependabilty offered by todays automatics are two big reasons why we are seeing fewer and fewer manuals available. Well, that and cell phones and cappuccinos. The consumer will ultimately determine what's available.

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Old 03-09-2009, 09:05 PM   #44
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Woody,

Let's see, I bought the truck in '04 with 239,000 on the clock. Do not know what was done to it before that.

- 2 injections pumps (on the newer common rail trucks it will be the injectors replaced usually instead of the injection pump)
- 1 lift pump ( put on an AirDog which will be the last one I need)
- 2 right front wheel hubs, 1 left front
- 4 APPS (accelerator pedal position sensor) (aftermarket is now available, should be better)
- 2 alternators
- 2 headlight switches
- 1 a/c compressor
- vacuum pump
- power steer pump
- 2 serpentine belts
- a few u-joints
- on my 3rd set of tires (usually 180,000 per)
- rear axle rebuilt
- 2 clutches (highly recommend the newest South Bend Clutch OFE)
- 4 reman tranny's ( 2 broke as a result of "shock" and were not the fault of the tranny)
- and when I get home later this week a radiator

Keep in mind the majority of the above was after the 500,000 mile mark.

When I did the head gasket the crosshatch on the cylinder walls looked factory fresh.

I'm going to get a million out of it.

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Old 03-10-2009, 10:48 PM   #45
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I have not read all the postings, but I would seriously consider what company will be in business the next few years. My guess, Chrysler will be out, very soon and Gm to follow. Best shot is Ford or Asian, and that is just odds, nothing is for sure. Gm will not have the volume to survive as it operates today, and Chrysler is just a mess. Both will told by suppliers soon what their future is. Stay tuned.
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Old 03-11-2009, 06:54 AM   #46
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I have not read all the postings, but I would seriously consider what company will be in business the next few years. My guess, Chrysler will be out, very soon and Gm to follow. Best shot is Ford or Asian, and that is just odds, nothing is for sure. Gm will not have the volume to survive as it operates today, and Chrysler is just a mess. Both will told by suppliers soon what their future is. Stay tuned.
I doubt either is going to dry up and blow away. But what if they did? What difference would it make?

You can still buy parts for Studebakers and DeSotos at your local parts stores.
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First, i hope you are right. I do have inside information that suppliers will dictate the future of GM and chrysler. It has to do with risk. vs reward. Stay tuned as this will be a story of role reversals that will be discussed in business schools forever. If you think the relationship with ford and navistar was nasty, well wait for things like seats and safety systems, things the big 3 have no idea how to make these days.

I agree buying used it makes little difference. However, when buying new it seems prudent to me if you plan to turn the truck in say 3-4 years, the depreciation could be painful indeed. I have a very good friend in the body shop business, some body panels could get very hard to get brand new in a short time on some models. Used yes, but rust etc??

Hey its a tough period in our countries history. I never thought we would look at such a fate for GM. Life is not fair, and it will be interesting to see how it all falls out. Hell, rv mfg are dropping like flies, fewer choices for all and I already noticed Best buy raised prices, no Circuit city to deal with. Hang on!!
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Old 03-29-2009, 09:47 PM   #49
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I've spent most of my life in Automotive Service Field. My Grand Father drove Fords, my Father drove Fords, so...I drove Fords. Until I bought my Dodge. I have no reason to ever look back. From a professional perspective GM's are soft & the Frames are weak, Fords always had nice interiors, but the whole International thing has ruined a good truck, Dodges have the best Frames, Engines & solid ft 4x4 axles. The bottom line is dependability, Fact's are Fact's. Expect to be impressed with the new 2010 HD Rams....
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I've spent most of my life in Automotive Service Field. My Grand Father drove Fords, my Father drove Fords, so...I drove Fords. Until I bought my Dodge. I have no reason to ever look back. From a professional perspective GM's are soft & the Frames are weak, Fords always had nice interiors, but the whole International thing has ruined a good truck, Dodges have the best Frames, Engines & solid ft 4x4 axles. The bottom line is dependability, Fact's are Fact's. Expect to be impressed with the new 2010 HD Rams....
That and $2 will get you a cup of coffee.
There is some reason both GM and Ford trucks out sell Dodge (and foreigners) 3:1 for the past half century....

I don't care what you buy...(long as it's red/white/blue)...but the sales figures are the real facts...

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Old 03-30-2009, 06:59 PM   #51
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GM's are soft & the Frames are weak,
You obvously haven't looked at a late model GM frame.
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I've spent most of my life in Automotive Service Field. My Grand Father drove Fords, my Father drove Fords, so...I drove Fords. Until I bought my Dodge. I have no reason to ever look back. From a professional perspective GM's are soft & the Frames are weak, Fords always had nice interiors, but the whole International thing has ruined a good truck, Dodges have the best Frames, Engines & solid ft 4x4 axles. The bottom line is dependability, Fact's are Fact's. Expect to be impressed with the new 2010 HD Rams....
Nice try on your first post

If your fishing you've already gotten a few bites.

By 2010 it may be a moot point anyway.

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GM = Government Motors

All,

I'm sure you've already heard, but Obama is now the controlling interest in GM.

You can bet your tootsie rolls that they will be selling electric vehicles with huge tax rebates in the next couple of years.

Chrysler is now being forced into a merger with Fiat, and that will make them both go under. (GM should've bought Jeep when they had the chance back in 1986.)

The Asian market is in just about the same kind of situation, with Honda and Toyota both in dire need of government support.

The ONLY choice now it seems is the Ford.

I've also decided to keep the old truck, as I've now got most everything fixed. The payment on a new truck is akin to the payment on a house, and I just don't see the value there. I've only got 207,000 on it now, and I think I can get another 200k before I trade her in.

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Old 04-04-2009, 06:43 PM   #55
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I have a Chevy with a Duramax. Even though Cummins is a good engine it sounds like a coffee can full of ball bearings rattling.. Ford is only slightly quieter but not by much. Back in 86 I owned a ford diesel and would wake the neighbors every morning. If GM doesn't survive I hope someone starts installing the Duramax/Allison combo and they would have a winner. Quiet and lots of power..
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That and $2 will get you a cup of coffee.
There is some reason both GM and Ford trucks out sell Dodge (and foreigners) 3:1 for the past half century....

I don't care what you buy...(long as it's red/white/blue)...but the sales figures are the real facts...

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Bill,

Sales figures do tell us something, but not necessarily that the biggest seller is the best, the primary reason Ford outsells GM and they both out sell Dodge is the number of retail outlets. Ford has by far the largest number of dealers, and recently, they are gaining in terms of percentages since there are more GM and Dodge dealers closing shop due to the economy and poor sales. Each manufacturer has it's loyal fans, and each truck is different in some way from another, and in the end, each owner justifies his decsion based on his set of circumstances and specific needs and wants. I for one am really glad we have a choice, and I agree, lets hope we will always have many red/white/blue trucks to choose from in the future.

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