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Old 09-15-2016, 03:09 PM   #29
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I have a F350 and tow a 25 foot International.

I have the Equalizer hitch that transfers weight and sway control. For the price... it would be recommended in your case. As already pointed out, you are really sitting down in the back of your truck. If you read the instructions, on line, on what the weight transfer does... this would be my number ONE correction.

My older Equalizer with chains did not have any sway control. It tracked perfectly and the half ton truck was borderline for cargo load capacity. This was with a 23 foot Safari.

You may feel offended at first, but you might want to investigate your hitch and trailer setup. No sense having a serious 'learning experience' when it is inexpensive to purchase even a used hitch that will do the job.

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Old 09-15-2016, 03:10 PM   #30
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Our Suburban had automatic load leveling and therefore "didn't need" weight distribution. Not so!

Our Sprinter van one-ton also call for no WD, and actually lowers much less under trailer tongue weight than the 3/4 Suburban with self leveling did. And it also has a sophisticated balancing system doing asymmetric braking. But we are much happier using our Equalizr (for both WD and anti-sway.)

I think you will be, too. Transferring load off your rear axle and putting it back inti the front will give you much more positive road contact in your steering wheels. And using mechanical antisway will take all or most if the sway out before your truck starts to correct. The combination for antisway should give you a rock solid ride that you won't have to think twice about.

Good luck, and please let us know what your decision and experience is.

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Old 09-15-2016, 11:55 PM   #31
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We could probably get away with not having WD, but I believe our Blue Ox Sway Pro helps soften the AS ride hitched to our F350.
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Old 09-16-2016, 04:10 AM   #32
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I have gone through the manual, There is a section on WD but nothing saying you don't need it.
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Old 09-16-2016, 05:38 AM   #33
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Old 09-16-2016, 06:04 AM   #34
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It's also bad to have it, need it, and used it, only to find out that having it, needing it, and using it made no appreciable difference at the accident scene.
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Old 09-16-2016, 07:13 AM   #35
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To begin, I think Ford SD is a good platform all around... This is not a "hating" reply. So..... What follows are simple "perspectives" on the preceding statements about the 2017's..

Just from the physics perspective, with rear axle as pivot point, hanging gear on the stern of any truck will move the opposite end of the lever... Just saying.

Running No WD would tend to transmit more undamped moments on both vehicles at the stern pivot (ball)..

Additional concern of mine would be brake friction component wear and some added tire wear. Imagine, just enough sway to activate the "sway control"... I would consider possibility of some smoking AS brakes at the end of the pull?... Ok, maybe not smoking, but a life expectancy impact.

Next, imagine intermittent (depending upon sway physics) SC induced braking loads transferred to our axle type... Ford ain't gonna fix or replace those.

As mentioned in the replies on links to "writer" and Ford SD forum discussion there is an issue with "rear squat" and headlight aim points.. That is just a fact (unless Ford has compensating managing headlight system).

From the Ford specs, the max tow with F-250 is with the Gasoline powered model...

Oh, they made significant changes to reduce pilot available room by 2 inches from door panel to center console.

Otherwise should like a good truck for towing (but from specs some models may not handle our Excella.
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Old 09-16-2016, 07:34 AM   #36
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Originally Posted by jacksd3 View Post
If you are lifting your front end on a truck that weights about 8k pounds then you are probably exceeding the tongue weight limit of your hitch. I see WD solutions for smaller TVs.

Sway control is a good thing for any load. But I still question if speed is the underlying issue. Excluding weather factors and/or an unstable load in the trailer.

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My dodge 4/4 short box with 6.7 weighs 8800 with 4500 on the steer, with out the equalizer hitch the 31' classic will drop the rear thus raising the front...these are loaded weights...
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Old 09-16-2016, 08:24 AM   #37
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Without even factoring in the tow vehicle itself, look at the rating of the hitch. My hitch says:

"Maximum 500 lb. tongue weight/5000 lb. trailer weight without weight distribution; Maximum 1000 lb. tongue weight/10000 lb. trailer weight with weight distribution." My 25' Airstream exceeds 500 lbs. tongue weight, so I always use WD and I also choose to use sway control.

Your truck maybe has the power to tow a semi-load of elephants, but if you're exceeding the rated capacity of the hitch you might have a failure. A failure while towing can obviously be catastrophic for you, but there may be liability issues if you injure (or worse) someone else or cause property damage.

For towing, it's the weakest link, or combination of weak links, that will be the issue. Cheap, underrated tires, poor brakes, improper hitch set up, improper load distribution, excessive speed, driver inattention, etc. can all come together in a bad way.

Attention to the details will keep you safer!
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Old 09-16-2016, 08:53 AM   #38
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Simply this:

Originally Posted by heitkergm View Post
You need weight distribution if the front end raises when the trailer is coupled. If the front end of the truck gets too high, you have steering control issues.
If the front end of the truck raises when hitched, use weight distribution to bring it down.
Measure the height of your front bumper with and without the trailer. Your truck will handle the load without WD. But in emergency handling, your steering is compromised if the nose is raised.

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Old 09-16-2016, 01:08 PM   #39
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Originally Posted by Caffeinated View Post
That doesn't actually come from Ford. It comes from an automotive writer who states that it comes from Ford. Until I see it coming from Ford...

From Ford:
"Maximum conventional towing is increased to 21,000 pounds – 1,000 pounds better than the nearest competitors’ trucks and without the need for a weight-distributing hitch. Maximum conventional towing with F-250, with the all-new trailer tow package, and F-350 single-rear wheel are increased to a class-leading 18,000 pounds."
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Old 09-16-2016, 01:16 PM   #40
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Originally Posted by DavidsonOverlander View Post
From Ford:
"Maximum conventional towing is increased to 21,000 pounds – 1,000 pounds better than the nearest competitors’ trucks and without the need for a weight-distributing hitch. Maximum conventional towing with F-250, with the all-new trailer tow package, and F-350 single-rear wheel are increased to a class-leading 18,000 pounds."

It's not worded very take is that the first sentence covers a 350 dually...followed by factoids on the SRW 350 and 250s. It is a confusing statement at best.

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Old 09-23-2016, 09:19 PM   #41
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Would love to see a few pics of the new hitch in comparison to the old one.
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Old 09-24-2016, 11:11 AM   #42
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Not sure this clears anything up but TFL Truck asked the same question.

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