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Old 08-19-2016, 12:32 PM   #15
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When I was looking I subscribed to the big three forums to see what the complaints are to see if there were any big issues. They are all about the same and with any forum, you are generally reading posts by people with problems, you seldom see posts from the majority that are happy. We went with the F350 for payload, HP, quiet engine (comparatively), torque, roomy cab and great price. Good luck in your search!
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Old 08-19-2016, 12:50 PM   #16
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Having owned all three makes of these Diesels within our family of companies, IF I were to ever be in the market for another one ton diesel, I would not buy any of these three except for the Cummins Ram, period.


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Old 08-19-2016, 01:02 PM   #17
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Fleet of Duramax/Allison here-
Can't compare to a modern Ford. We haven't had a Ford since the 7.3 Navisatar.
Never had any experience with Ram.
We looked at a Ram once.
In comparison the bodies and ride quality seem better on the GM trucks. We ruled out the Ram.
In general the Duramax/Allison are very smooth, quiet, and powerful.
The family that owns the company I work for thinks GM hung the moon.
I think Toyota hung the moon, but...
If I were to choose between the 3 I would personally choose Duramax/Allison.
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Old 08-19-2016, 01:14 PM   #18
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I always read these threads from 30,000ft so as to avoid the ground fire. I've never owned a diesel but hope to someday. The only input I can offer is that it seems Ram guys are either the most vocal and / or numerous. When I do buy, I plan to go almost entirely on looks alone.
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Old 08-19-2016, 01:46 PM   #19
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2016 is Cummins 101st year in business. 'Nuff said.
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Old 08-19-2016, 01:58 PM   #20
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I suspect that when it comes down to it, there is not a lot to choose between the big three.

We have had our Duramax for 8 years now and have been more than pleased with it.

The only issue we ever had was one trip where the truck went into "Limp mode" when in the fast lane on an interstate - truck immediately lost power and would not run more than maybe 20mph.

The fuel filter life suddenly dropped from about 60% left to 0% at the same time.

We had unavoidably fuelled up earlier in the day at a very seedy-looking gas station in the hills of Pennsylvania and my immediate thought was a load of bad fuel. Diesel fuel with age can grow algae.

We managed to "limp" five miles down the interstate to a small town with a GM dealer.

I told them what had happened and of my suspicions. I asked if they could change the filter and if possible dump the remaining 1/4 tank of fuel.

When we picked the truck up an hour later they had changed the filter but said the fuel looked fine so they did not dump it. That concerned me a bit, but we did make it home - maybe 250 miles - with no further issue, and it has never happened again.

So far that has been the only issue with the engine that we have had.


We did also have problems with the integrated trailer brake system in the Sierra - now fixed after several attempts I think! It was somewhat frustrating and after multiple visits to the dealer I almost got to the point of trying to bypass the system in favour of an aftermarket controller, but it has now been fine for a couple of years.

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Old 08-19-2016, 02:13 PM   #21
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All 3 engines are proven, it's the rest of the truck that you want to consider. Dodge is notorious for poor front ends, problematic transmissions and weak frames. Chevy's have front end and interior issues. Ford has improved it's frame and now has aluminum body. Some like it, some don't. The Ford Super Duty is a very popular tow and work truck. The 2017 is by all early test results, the best HD truck on the market.
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Old 08-19-2016, 02:30 PM   #22
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In all three cases the year of the truck makes a difference, unfortunately many posters do not mention this.
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Old 08-19-2016, 04:27 PM   #23
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if you are buying new then the ford 6.7L is a monster.. 450 plus HP and close to 950 LB of torque.

not sure what the durmax is running..

I have a 2003 7.3L ford and will run it for a while. have spent what i saved on upgrading parts.. but thats life..

I like to buy a year or two old to avoid the depreciation you get when you drive off the lot.

stay away for the ford 2011 to 13's, too many engine related problem with the new 6.7L engine, now I believe they are much more dependable and strong as a buck mule..
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stay away for the ford 2011 to 13's, too many engine related problem with the new 6.7L engine, now I believe they are much more dependable and strong as a buck mule..
Carl:
Our 2011 6.7 has never given a problem(yet)-including last year's 6000 mile trip to Wyoming and back.
What engine issues should I look out for?
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Old 08-19-2016, 08:36 PM   #25
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The 2016 F250/350 6.7 Power Stroke is 440 HP with 860 lbs of torque. Way overkill for what we are towing but totally relaxing up and down hill. Our F350 has a stock 37 gallon fuel tank.
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I plan to wait patiently until Toyota finally comes out with a diesel. Then I'll think about getting one.




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2012 Ram 2500HD Cummins short bed 4x4 runs well. We acquired it in January 2013 and it had sat on a midways dealer's lot for over six months. No initial problems. Converted to a 56 gallon tank under the bed and cab to replace stock tank and a Kelderman all wheel level ride air bag suspension getting rid of all the steel springs. Much better ride and I can dump the rear air bags to lower the tailgate to a level I can easily load since I am short (5' 6" once and probably 5' 5" now). On board air compressor keeps suspension up and rear air chuck can be used to put air in the tires.

The variable vane turbocharger seized in the closed position at about 36,000 miles in July 2016 which basically immobilized the vehicle (could hardly move except at idle speed). I replaced it with a fixed vane turbocharger and an engine exhaust brake in the down tube. Runs much better now.

The parts houses seems to be selling lots of replacement turbos for the 2012 model year due to this failure.
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You don't even say what year is your Ford Powerstroke. I know of numerous Cummins owner that had an injector issue that cost them over $3,000 not to mention their turbo repair. Be more specific. Every diesel engine is more complicated than a gas engine. Fuel contamination is important, turbo lube, EPA requirements like urea or regen soot box can be an issue. Bottom line is that gas engines today, no matter the brand, are 4 times better than all diesel engines from 15 years ago. Not to mention the extra cost for diesel engines and their extra maintaince costs.
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