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Old 12-12-2009, 03:56 PM   #1
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Ford Flex anyone?

I'm looking at getting a Ford Flex to use as our TV. We have the little 17' Safari Sport and the weight is fine. (3000 lb trailer/ 4500lb towing capacity) Has any one used this vehicle? Do you think I would need the optional turbo engine? Any input would be good.
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Old 12-12-2009, 04:15 PM   #2
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We have set up several of the Flexs to tow a variety of trailers including several Airstreams. It is a great working vehicle.

The center of gravity is quite low for an SUV. The 124" wheel base combined with the short rear overhang and independent rear suspension give it excellent handling. One customer with a 1992 29' went to one after a 3/4 ton suburban, he is amazed at how much better it handles and of coarse the ride is fantastic by comparison. None of the ones we have set up so far have the eco boost engine. For a 17' it would not be necessary at all. Generally we do strengthen the hitch receivers but that would not be necessary for the 17'.

Which hitch system and brake control are you using?

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Old 12-12-2009, 04:24 PM   #3
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We had a close look at the Flex when they first came out. They are very roomy inside with a limo sized 2nd row seat. Bet they would provide a comfy environment for towing and traveling. Not sure I fancy the boxy shape but the vehicle as a whole seems interesting/promising.
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I'm not so sure aboot the wheelbase there, Andy, my lookup shows it as 117.9". Maybe those are imperial inches?

Sure wouldn't keep me from buying one though. That's the best looking vehicle I've seen in a long time. Wish I could trade my Tahoe for one.
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Old 12-13-2009, 05:16 AM   #5
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You are absolutely right, I think I had a long wheelbase Jag on my mind or something.

I thought I had a picture of one with an Airstream but I cannot find it. The lease is up on our Town & Country this fall and I am seriously thinking of an Echoboost to replace it. Unless I find something more interesting at the auto show in January.

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I see that the EcoBoost engine moves the power up by 100. I had been looking rather poorly at the Flex with an estimated curb weight of just over 5,000-lbs with driver/pax, full fuel and nothing else aboard with 250-hp. Shoot, my '71 Chrysler scaled at less than that, same load, with a 440-4V; some more HP but a LOT more torque.

I've wanted (daydream) the Euro-spec Chrysler 300/Magnum with the Mercedes diesel as a TV, figuring it might be the mileage champ. I liked the fact that the wheelbase was a full 120", and that the car weighed, empty, north of 4,000-lbs. But even option-loaded & packed for travel, a 5,000-pounder wasn't out of the question yet it would have Euro diesel torque or American Hemi grunt, it isn't lacking for power.

Is the torque curve really amenable on a turbocharged gasoline engine for towing a fairly heavy trailer with the Flex?

How is that formula of yours -- wheelbase versus per-wheel-HP (or however it works) -- apply to this vehicle? Comparable to . . . ?
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Old 12-14-2009, 07:01 PM   #7
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Would you even need the Ecoboost engine? My husband was looking at a Flex to tow our 1960 tradewind whose dry weight is about 3400 pounds...he is still worried that the wheelbase is a little short on it..
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I've driven a normally-aspirated Flex and a Lincoln MKS and MKT (same platform) with the Ecoboost. Like most modern turbo engines, the torque curve is wonderfully flat and plateau-like.

The biggest things that bug me about the Flex/MKT is rear visibility (when backing up, you're looking through a long vehicle, and the rear window isn't all that big) and an intrusive footwell that cramps the driving position. It doesn't help that my wife hates the styling...

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I love the styling of the Flex! It reminds me of a mini cooper on steroids!
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I like the styling. But I drive a Volvo 850, so I have weakness for boxy station wagons!
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I think it's just tooo Flexy!

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I like the styling. But I drive a Volvo 850, so I have weakness for boxy station wagons!
I agree with you, Cameron. I think it's a style that will "wear well".

And man, is it comfortable inside. If the budget had allowed, I would have definitley gone with a Flex instead of the '07 Freestar. Not that the Freestatr isn't real comfy, with leather electric seats and all, but the Flex is way more "now".
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So towing a 25 foot 1960 airstream (3400 pounds) would not be out of the question with the flex?
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Well, I can tell you that I'm towing a 1974 31' Airstream (dry weight 5,000 lbs) very well with my 2007 Ford Freestar 4.2 litre V6.

I made sure it was properly hitched by Can-Am RV though...
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I thought Freestars only had a 3500 pound tow rating?
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