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Old 06-21-2014, 05:09 PM   #57
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I always get at least 1-2 more mpg using non-ethanol gas, but yes, it is more expensive than ethanol. Thing is that 87 non-ethanol probably has more btu's that 89 or 91 ethanol, so you are getting more bang there, plus none of the ethanol issues.
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Old 06-21-2014, 07:28 PM   #58
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jumping late in this thread but I tow a 19' my 2013 F150 EB and I couldn't be happier.

I have the max tow and HD packages, max payload is 2200lbs or so (door sticker). I have a cap over the bed with 4 bikes in it + camping gear and I'm still far from that 2200lbs capacity.

I can merge on the highway at 60mph without problems and the truck just pulls great. I get 11-13mpg on Michigan roads when pulling the Airstream and ~18-19 without.
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Old 06-22-2014, 08:34 PM   #59
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Bob, the Tow Sway Control is "always on" (even when not using the Tow/Haul feature) anytime the truck is started. My guess is that this feature works the brakes and in doing so improves towing safety. When not towing I feel as though it does not need to be on and for me it is an amazing improvement in mileage when off. I have to turn it "off" each time I start the vehicle. It is a little effort with a nice $aving$ in fuel expense.
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Old 06-22-2014, 08:35 PM   #60
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I sold the 25 Classic but when I pulled it I got 10.x

Heavy tongue weight on that trailer.
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Old 06-24-2014, 06:40 AM   #61
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We are just home from a 2300 mile trip pulling our 25' Classic, which included several days pulling thru the Smokies. The conditions of the roads we used were excellent, except for my home state of IL, and we mostly maintained a speed of 65 mph. F150 FX4 SCREW w/3.73 averaged 11.3 mpg, 87 octane 10% alcohol. The turbo's really show there stuff on the uphill sections and the tow/haul mode downshifts the transmission to totally eliminate braking on the descents. We absolutely love this truck, will buy a 2015 and will have the payload package. An additional note, the ProPride hitch is worth every penny invested, provides a rock solid, safe towing experience in every condition.
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Old 06-25-2014, 06:45 AM   #62
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Payload is the biggest disadvantage to the ecoboost. Unless you get it with HD Payload which the configuration isn't ideal, you might as well just get a F-250. And those "tow ratings" are heavily skewed.

I have read threads here and threads on other forums and the towing MPG are about the same as guys with v8's. The only upside I see is the turbo's are better performers when it comes to delivering torque thru the whole power band and perform better at altitude than naturally aspirated engines. And sure you might get better MPG not towing, but a lot of folks on the Ford forums have pointed out that's not realistic either because the truck tends to be "fun" to drive. Most are averaging 18mpg city.

Still, the ecoboost is an attractive option for some, especially if towing a smaller trailer.
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I short changed myself with the payload capacity so be certain to go with HD payload package. As stated earlier with the tongue weight a cap and loaded up it does not take much to be overloaded. The 2015 models will be made of aluminum thus saving 700lbs on the TV. Go with the 3.5 Echoboost. Great engine with good fuel economy when not towing. Nothing out there gets good milage when towing. Also Ford comes with the best Navigation system I have ever had.
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Well stated Mikekey. IN addition, when I looked at the ProRide Hitch that RBS is using the weight of that heavy hitch coupled to the 870 pound empty trailer hitch weight of the 2006 25 Classic it easily took me to the maximum capacity of the Class-V hitch Ford installs on this Eco Boost. It has a max rating of 1,050 pounds as I recall. Now, If I start to add the weight of propane, awnings, a little water for traveling and misc the tongue weight of the 25 Classic goes up notably and anything in the truck bed that is loaded past the axel and toward the hitch side again raises the weight further. At this point, the trailer hitch has exceeded it mfg safety spec capacity and then there is the payload issue of the F150 we haven't even talked about. For the heavier tongue weight trailers and the ProRide Hitch it seemed to me the F-250 takes all the guesswork out of the safety issues that we are all concerned with. With the lighter weight AS the EcoBoost is a real winner, the bigger ones, not so much.
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Great point Earthcreeper, overloading your factory installed hitch can be a recipe for disaster. I actually know someone whose hitch actually broke off the vehicle from this.
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I don't know what you folks are bringing with you in the beds of your trucks or how many people are included, but I'm towing 7200 lbs of trailer, plus gear, and have logged over 45,000 miles now with two adults and have not experienced any problems with payload, hitch weight or total GVW. Just towed across the Mojave desert at 110 up the Needles grade and then up the Pacific Coast Highway to Carmel. No problems. If a 3/4 ton makes you happy, go start a thread and tell the world.
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You're most likely overloaded and clueless to the fact.
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You're most likely overloaded and clueless to the fact.
Or perhaps mojo doesn't carry the kitchen sink from home. He specifically said he hadn't had problems with GVW, so one might as easily assume he's weighed the rig as assume he's "clueless" and over gross.
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You're most likely overloaded and clueless to the fact.
Opinions are like as.....never mind, you wouldn't understand.
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Payload is the biggest disadvantage to the ecoboost. Unless you get it with HD Payload which the configuration isn't ideal, you might as well just get a F-250. And those "tow ratings" are heavily skewed.

Still, the ecoboost is an attractive option for some, especially if towing a smaller trailer.
On the Ford Build and Price website, a 2014 Lariat Crewcab 4x4 w/ecoboost can be had with a 2,000 lb payload. If you spec a Lariat with the HD Payload package it goes up to 2,310 lbs.

My 27FB international serenity tongue weight is 900 lbs. This is actual weight using a tongue weighing scale, and weighed with full propane and loaded for camping. The maximum F-150 tongue load is 1,130 lbs. My Equal-i-zer hitch might weigh in at 130 lbs, so this plus the 900 lbs native weight still leaves the trailer safely under the maximum.

So unless one plans to haul a pallet of cement bags in the truck bed camping with their Airstream I can't see why a F-150 wouldn't be more than adequate for the job at hand, even for larger Airstreams.


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