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Old 05-05-2014, 01:57 AM   #561
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The most luxurious trim on which you can get HD Payload is the Lariat. HD payload is not available with a short bed, your choices are Regular Cab or Super Cab with an 8' bed, or SuperCrew with a 6.5' bed.

Odds are high you'll have to order the truck you're talking about... you'll at least have to search for it. The truck will be LONG, especially the SuperCab long-bed. HD Payload includes Max Tow by default, so to get HD Payload you'll automatically get a 3.73 differential (mechanical limited-slip, in fact.)

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I promise, this post isn't out of laziness....it's out of confusion.

I'm about to buy a '12 27FB Int'l. I'm a bachelor, and will be traveling w/my Border Collie mix, who weighs 49lbs. Other than him, I'm on my own, and an occasional visiting girlfriend.

I THINK I want to buy a Ford F-150 ecoboost, 4x4, 3.73, Max Tow Pkg, Max Payload. I thought I wanted a Platinum, short bed, but if I read this thread correctly, I can't get it outfitted like that.

This Ford stuff is confusing, and infuriating. Can someone please tell me the best way to get this truck outfitted, and have it include creature comforts as well. Also, is 3.73 the way to get it set up as a good TV??

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Probably the best thing to do is go to a dealership and take a look at the payload rating (sticker on driver side door) for some trucks you might like. A payload of 1,500 to 1,600 ought to be plenty for two adults, a dog, your trailer and some stuff.

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I'm about to buy a '12 27FB Int'l.
I THINK I want to buy a Ford F-150 ecoboost, 4x4, 3.73, Max Tow Pkg, Max Payload.
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Perfect set-up. You should be able to find this in the Lariat model with all the buzzes and whistles. Back-up camera is nice if you're solo.
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yes -- definately get the backup camera option. I bought a 2013 F150 ecoboost max-tow,max-cargo shortcab longbed (only available in XLT :-P) and desperately looking at post-purchase options... tennis balls on sticks is not a fun way to hitch up solo...
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Not happy about buying new

I'll never find the truck outfitted like you guys are suggesting, without ordering, which obviously means NEW. I usually buy very young, with plenty of warranty, but used, which means someone else took the hit.
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I believe all the Echoboosts that tow come with 3.73. I have a very light foot and the EB tows so well the 3.55 rear ends would probably work. Be nice to pick up a few more MPG when not towing.

Never enough payload so pay attention to that first and foremost.
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I'll never find the truck outfitted like you guys are suggesting, without ordering, which obviously means NEW. I usually buy very young, with plenty of warranty, but used, which means someone else took the hit.
Then you probably need great patience, or a used 3/4 ton truck. If you're planning to keep it a long time, the difference won't matter. You'll pay more up front for a 3/4 ton, but it'll probably be worth more when you've been using it for years.

I have a 2nd-hand F150, and it's fine for my vintage 24' Argosy but I had to put a lot of effort into finding a fairly high-spec truck with even a 3.55 limited-slip diff and the 5.4L (mine's a 2007, bought in early 2011.) I'm renovating a 28' Argosy and I'd like a few more gears in the transmission, so I've pretty much resigned myself to ordering a 2016 F150 to my specs and keeping it for 8-10 years. (My car is an '05 I bought new to get just what I wanted, by the way... it's not a new concept for me.) As long as you're not trading vehicles every 3 years buying a new one isn't that big of a hit, it's making a habit of buying them every few years that'll cost you.
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I'll never find the truck outfitted like you guys are suggesting, without ordering, which obviously means NEW. I usually buy very young, with plenty of warranty, but used, which means someone else took the hit.
Hi, likewise; I don't think I will be able to find what I want used either and will most likely have to buy/order new. My Lincoln is still doing good, but I want/need a pickup. [F-150]
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FYI the best money I have spent on my truck by far has been the addition of Hellwig front and rear sway bars. The truck feels planted and stable at all speed. If anyone wants to know more about this 450 dollar upgrade and a few hours of work please read the following write up. Product Review: Hellwig Anti-Sway Bars - Ford F150 Forum - Community of Ford Truck Fans
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'll never find the truck outfitted like you guys are suggesting, without ordering, which obviously means NEW. I usually buy very young, with plenty of warranty, but used, which means someone else took the hit.
Don't be so sure. I was shopping for a tow vehicle, an F-150 in white with tan interior I said, one month later they had a Certified Preowned in excellent shape and low miles, tow pkg and I paid $24K for a 2009 in Oct 2011. Consider too that I have a 980 lb tongue weight on my unit as per the CAT scales based on full LP. My regular tow package (not HD tow) is rated for 1548 lbs and 1050 at the receiver. My AS tongue is rated at 860 lbs. I am still within limits.

It depends on how much payload you will have in the truck beyond your tongue weight. Traveling alone with a dog you might be fine with a reg tow package and that alone would open up a great many more possibilities. The international 27' is rated at 770lbs which is about 100lbs less than my model. We know that figure is relative but you have more leeway than I do. Any F-150 you look at, be sure to look inside the door for the payload rating. It is usually an obvious number on a sticker. I believe the new ones go up to 1700 lbs on a non HD package in the Supercrew (4dr) with 6.5' bed. The rumors say that the new 2015 model will have increased ratings due to lower truck weight. We will see.
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I'll never find the truck outfitted like you guys are suggesting, without ordering, which obviously means NEW. I usually buy very young, with plenty of warranty, but used, which means someone else took the hit.
Have the dealer start a search -- the truck I am in has everything I wanted except for the backup camera; and it was found on a lot in Buffalo New York and dealer-transferred to Richmond for my sale. Everything else though -- size, engine, ratio, ammenities, max haul max cargo, all what I sought.

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Build your own Ford truck on line

Just went to the Ford web site and built a Platinum F150 EB with the Super Crew 6 foot bed with the HD tow package. You can play with the options but if you choose the EB engine, 4X4, and 3.73 differential you will get the 700A trim, which includes the HD tow package.


I choose the XLT to get the cloth seats, which you can't get on the Platinum and I prefer the backup camera setup in the rearview mirror vs the dash in the Platinum.


Anyway I have a 31 foot Classic that I pull with my 2013 F150 EB XLT 4X2, which has a 17,230 lb combined weight capability. For your Airstream selection the F150 EB is very capable with the HD tow package.


Once you have your Ford configured the web site then will locate the dealer that has your configuration and put you in contact with them.


I will close with three suggestions:


1. Choose the smaller wheels so you can get the LT tires. The Platinum will automatically put in 20" wheels. The LT isn't made in the 20" size.


2. Buy a good equalizer hitch for you TV.


3. Not needed but I added Firestone air bags to mitigate the up and down oscillations to get on rough roads.


Have fun!!!
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Thank you

Thank you all for those great suggestions. I'm actually buying the AS on June 1, the day after my house closes...but I don't pick it up until Aug 5--so, I have a little time to try and find a used TT.

I was tempted by a low mileage '05 Excursion, but that 6.0 gets slammed every time I read a review.
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F150 EB with HD tow package

Go to,the Ford web site and build your own F150 and then source the product to a dealer near you. When I purchased my 2013 F150 EB I first did the configuration online and with that located my truck.

The first thing I saw in the responses is that the HD tow package is limited to a specific model and that isn't correct! After reading your question I went to the site and did a F150 EB Platinum configuration with a Super Crew cab, 6 foot bed, HD tow Package etc. So get online and build it the way you want and use the tool to locate your ride.

I would add to your list of things to have is a good equalizer hitch and air bags to mitigate the up and down oscillations on bumpy roads.

The HD tow package will give you more than enough weight and tow capacity for the vehicle you will be towing!

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