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Old 02-09-2013, 08:21 AM   #337
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To DKB SATX and others; if you want to make your 5.4 act like a new truck contact Mike at 5 Star Tuning | Custom Dynomemeter Chassis Tuning Products and Services and purchase his custom tuner. I have one on both my 2008 V-10 and also on my wife's 2007 5.4 Lincoln LT (fancy F-150). On the LT I bought his tuner with 87 octane economy, 87 tow/performance and 89 tow/performance. Takes about 5 minutes to reprogram. When you tow, use one of the tow programs, when not towing reprogram to the economy mode. I gained 2 mpg using the 87 economy and when I do tow with the LT, the 89 tow/performance holds the tranny shifts and the power difference is significant. I have been running Mike's programmer on my V-10 for 4 years and there's no programmer out there that can come close to his. Mike is the foremost Ford gas engine programmer around. He also has a new programmer for the Ecoboost although I don't know anyone personally that has one, reports from others say it's amazing.
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Old 02-09-2013, 09:39 AM   #338
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Thanks for the info Pappy, but I find my Ecoboost amazing stock. Use 87 octane even while towing and have no issues.
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Old 02-09-2013, 09:44 AM   #339
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Thanks for the info Pappy, but I find my Ecoboost amazing stock. Use 87 octane even while towing and have no issues.
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Feel the same about mine.
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Old 02-09-2013, 11:09 AM   #340
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I was able to find some Ford Specs for 2012 F150 Supercrew 145" WB. Payload capacity with the 7100GVW is 1750lb and the tow rating is 9800lbs (not the 8900lbs I typed in error earlier)
Seems like with Ford/dealer incentives for the 2012 $29k I was quickly quoted last night is close to advertised 2013 dealer internet prices for a similarly equipped F150 but maybe the dealer would be more motivated on the 2012. I'm assuming I can get the Ford brake controller installed by the dealer if not included from the factory. it would integrate with the Ford sway system while my Prodigy 2 in my current vehicle wouldn't.

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Old 02-09-2013, 09:23 PM   #341
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Test drove the XLT Crewcab 145"WB EB today with 3.55, 7100. The label on the door read it had capacity for 1650lbs. Not sure if this is includes, excludes a tank of gas or if like Toyota a 150lbs for the driver.

In the center of the console was the mileage computer read out. I was able to increase the average mpg from 16.0 to 16.5 doing a 50/50 mix of city and freeway driving.

It's funny how American auto are so optioned that sometimes they chosen option don't make sense. The truck has Sync and can compute miles and estimated mileage to empty but the AC/Heating system controls were as basic and found in the cheapest car. Also the back seats in this XLT crew cab looked like they were an after though design. I'm not sure someone would be very comfortable on a long trip since you can't adjust the seats.

I was looking at preowned Tundras and will need to drive a Tundra 5.7L Crewcab to compare with the Ford Supercab.

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You can have the controller installed in the Ford if it is not installed, idid.

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Feel the same about mine.
add me.
Just traveled 4,538 miles (7303 km) and it was the best. Not towing, but went to the East coast from Montana and back, and it was great. Also last month was to the West coast, another 3,000 miles. Not one single problem. As I have said before, the only negatives I have seen on this vehicle are from non-owners.
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Terry, I've been following threads about Ford's eco boost 150 off and on since it was introduced. If you search "eco boost" in the Air Forums, you'll find a ton of threads that contain a lot of useful info, much of it from owners of the eco boost engine. I'd suggest you check them out carefully, as I seem to recall that a while after Ford brought out the powerplant , some owners were having serious problems.

The problems may be history now, I don't know, but it's worth looking into.
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Old 02-13-2013, 07:52 AM   #345
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This explination from a mechanic on the Ford Truck Forum for those having problems with their Ecoboost makes a lot of sense:

"When water (high humidity-condensation)gets into a cylinder the plug/ignition/spark fails. {Water does not burn}.
The injection of fuel into the cylinder is still being done and is pumped out the exhaust.
Raw fuel in the cats overheats the first cat and can melts the substrate.
This can restrict exhaust gas flow, cause poor mileage and burn the OX sensors. The temps can get well over 1000 degrees.
Result is poor fuel mileage from the restriction and damaged OX sensor.
When a cat is damaged that bad, putting a Scanner on to look at the OX sensor switching should reveal the condition.
Also a cat code should be present if the cat no linger meet min. oxygen storage limits.
For the driving issue, a Scanner set to Trap the fault will freeze the data and give an indication of what happened.
If water is being pumped into the motor killing ignition on one or more cylinders, then clears out, the code/s for that/those cylinders could be cancelled because it's not logiced a hard fault since the condition is no longer present.
Good luck."
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Is anyone out there driving an Ecoboost and pulling a Classic 28? I am looking at buying a used one and hesitant due to the weight, however, the EB is rated to handle it. My 2013 Ecoboost has a 3.55 electronic locking axle, 4x4 crew, 145" wheel base. The tow rating is 9600 pounds however the truck came with, as many do, passenger "P" rated tires which is sort of limiting as it relates to the payload. The truck is rated at 7200 GVRW but the tire sticker in the door jamb says do not exceed 1256 lbs which includes people, cargo and tongue weight. The AS Classic 28 empty weight is 6,785 with a GVRW of 8600; tongue weight is 730. My guess is the I would travel with a load of about 7,600 lbs plus tow vehicle. The F150 GCWR is 15,500. The F150 weighs approximately 5900 filled with fuel, no cargo or passengers.

Bottom line, is anyone out there pulling a heavier load such as this with an Ecoboost and how is it going?
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It will be fine. I have 2011 ecoboost with 3.73 gears and maxtow. I pull 31 foot excella. It performs effortlessly.
The low end torque with this engine is awesome.
And the weight of the truck is plenty to compensate for the weight of the trailer. Lots of people say you need a really heavy tow vehicle to control the trailer.
If so what about a fully loaded semi?
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Old 02-16-2013, 02:14 PM   #348
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BigAl, that's more comparable to a fifth wheel, with the addition of (at least) 4 extra traction/drive tires. And I do seem to see a lot of them jack knifed in the median WITH professional drivers behind the wheel.
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By your numbers you have 1256 usefull load in the truck, subtract 730 tongue weight gives 526 lbs useful for the truck. Less if the tongue weight is more than stated by the book which most people find to be true. The from your 526 lbs subtract the weight of the hitch head which is probably not less than 50 lbs and could be much more. So you have somewhere around 475 lbs for people and gear and you haven't considered the rear axle rating yet to see if you are overloading it.

Power to pull it the trailer, sure in spades, load capacity?
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Only point I was trying to make is the ratio of tow vehicle weight relative to towed weight.
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