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Old 03-15-2012, 03:54 PM   #127
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Currently pulling with a 2006 F250 6.0 and never notice the trailer is behind me, getting about 12mpg in the mountains, 14mpg without trailer. I need a pickup for about 15000 miles per year without the trailer and only about 5000 pulling the AS. I'm getting pretty tired, and really pissed every time I stop and pay 25 cents more for Diesel than gas,
You are getting a great deal if that is the cost differential between gas and diesel. Around here it is $.60 per gallon difference.
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Old 03-15-2012, 04:10 PM   #128
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"Currently pulling with a 2006 F250 6.0 and never notice the trailer is behind me, getting about 12mpg in the mountains, 14mpg without trailer."

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Old 03-15-2012, 04:53 PM   #129
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It has been over a year since this thread started about the EcoBoost. How are these trucks doing after that time? Any problems with direct injection, turbos, and does the V6 engine hold up well towing the heavy weights? Gene
Problems? What problems?

Ecoboost has been working like a champ. Smooth towing up the grades without hesitation. Pulling 7300lbs. Right now I'm up in Ruidoso NM and have been towing through SE AZ and up into the Gila wilderness. I guess the only thing lacking is that they have not put the EB in an F250 for the 27'+ crowd.
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Old 03-15-2012, 05:20 PM   #130
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Hey Mojo,
Don't need a F250. My XLT supercab with 8 foot box has heavy duty payload package and Max tow. Truck has a cargo capacity of 2760lb and a tow rating of 11,300lb of trailer. I don't think Airstream makes a trailer that heavy. Anyway, my trailer is a 31 footer and weighs about 8300lb full. I don't have any issues towing with my ecoboost.
Jealous of you guys that are out and about in your trailers this early in the year. I'm going to "dewinterize" mine this weekend which is early for Canada but it was about 70F today.
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Old 03-15-2012, 05:28 PM   #131
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Hi Mefly2,
I think your experience with fuel economy says it all. With the diesel there is not much difference between towing and not towing. I think 14 mpg empty is lousy.
My ecoboost will tow my 8300 lb trailer at about 12 mpg(us) and gets about 24mpg at the same speed on the freeway empty. Since I put on about 22,000 miles a year and tow only about 5,000 of those I do much better with the ecoboost. And after 11 months I have not had any issues except a faulty wiper controller.
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Old 03-15-2012, 09:43 PM   #132
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Glad to hear some have had no problems. This truck is a new attempt to deal with gas costs and mileage and has some new technology that makes some of us wonder how it will work out. I'm not usually a first adopter, so I always want to know how the first in line are doing.

Keep the info coming. I hope it is all good and other companies try to outdo Ford. Competition is supposed to work that way.

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I've read through some other sites on this, and my guess is that there's not a big problem with the trucks yet. Generally people complain WAY more often than they praise, and it seems like there are perhaps a couple hundred people loudly complaining about 2 distinct problems with the truck from something around 150,000+ units sold with the Ecoboost engine. (I'm basing that guess on the fact that V6 engines WAY outpaced the V8 for 2011, and the Ecoboost was the more popular of the two V6s. For a brand-new high-performance engine, that's pretty good. I don't mean to minimize the problems these people are having, but my guess is they're a small minority.
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My feelings of overwhelming anxiety have been temporarily relieved: just "ecoboosted" from Houston to St. Louis with no catastrophic system failures, and averaged over 12 mpg. for the trip.
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Hey Mojo,
Don't need a F250. My XLT supercab with 8 foot box has heavy duty payload package and Max tow. Truck has a cargo capacity of 2760lb and a tow rating of 11,300lb of trailer. I don't think Airstream makes a trailer that heavy. Anyway, my trailer is a 31 footer and weighs about 8300lb full. I don't have any issues towing with my ecoboost.
Jealous of you guys that are out and about in your trailers this early in the year. I'm going to "dewinterize" mine this weekend which is early for Canada but it was about 70F today.
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Those are some really impressive numbers for a 1/2 ton truck. I bought a 3/4 ton truck because it was the only way, at the time, I could get a crew cab with a 6.5' bed and a high enough payload capacity to handle my business and personal needs. I test drove an Ecoboost and was impressed. The dealer told me that the max payload for a crew cab with a 6.5' bed with the Ecoboost was around 1900#. I see an extended cab does much better on the payload capacity with 2760#.
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Old 03-16-2012, 06:04 PM   #136
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Yes, the fuel economy on the Ram diesel is not great! Unfortunately, my Ford dealer would not let me test drive an EB F150 (or even a 250/diesel for that matter) with a load pulled behind. The reports are now very glowing and have more credibility on the EB engine. Our decision was also based upon having experienced a triton blow a spark plug out the plug hole and into the hood ... as well as poor mountain uphill performance with the last Lariat CC F150 5.4 v-8 while towing ... two different F150s and two different TTs.

So, good or bad, we have the TV that we'll stick with for the next longish period of time. So far we are VERY happy with the Ram CTD, but not happy at all with the skyrocketing fuel prices. Likely we will have to curtail the longer trips as it is costing over $.30 per mile for just fuel! Cheers
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Yes, the fuel economy on the Ram diesel is not great! . . . .
So, good or bad, we have the TV that we'll stick with for the next longish period of time. So far we are VERY happy with the Ram CTD, but not happy at all with the skyrocketing fuel prices. Likely we will have to curtail the longer trips as it is costing over $.30 per mile for just fuel! Cheers
I use 15-cpm solo and 25-cpm towing as my baseline for predicting fuel costs. Is your 30-cpm figure for towing?

I've posted elsewhere as to how I gave myself "free travel fuel" by cutting annual miles traveled and improved solo fuel mileage. Fewer trips at a higher mpg. A great deal of money in this approach, with no decline in quality of life, etc. An improvement, in fact.

Emissions-deletes on the current trucks will also bring mpg up substantially when combined with the proper software "tuner".

IOW, there are some quite easy ways to bring one's fuel budget in line with desires. Records of all miles and all gallons consumed is the start.

Addressing rolling efficiency on both TT & TV is fruitful, as are some aero additions to the TV (which can also add utility).

Fuel prices will not be declining in any significant way henceforth. In short, the future will not be like the past.

Back to topic:

An Ecoboost F150 may be a good choice for a full-timer, but for part-timers there are yet better choices where FE for a TV/DD is a serious concern.

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I use 15-cpm solo and 25-cpm towing as my baseline for predicting fuel costs. Is your 30-cpm figure for towing?
Yes, that was for towing - fuel cost only.
We really can't consider any mods for five years / 100,000 miles due to warranty restrictions.
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There are many comments in this thread about the new technology of the eco-boost but in fact Ford started testing this many years ago with the Taurus SHO car. It was not on this specific engine but used the same technology so the dual turbine process has had a lot of miles put on it. I would not say the engine is bullet proof but I think that Ford has done a good job of testing the concept.
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The Taurus SHO wasn't turbocharged until it got the 3.5L EcoBoost in 2010 (more or less the same engine as the F150 EcoBoost.) The 3 previous generations of the SHO were normally aspirated.
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