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06-08-2014, 06:43 AM
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#101
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ag&Au
Your priorities are all messed up. Buy fewer groceries.
Ken
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That's an idea! Eating is highly overrated. But I can't cut into the beer budget
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06-08-2014, 07:35 AM
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#102
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2014 Bowlus Road Chief
Cumming
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Join Date: May 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dznf0g
That's an idea! Eating is highly overrated. But I can't cut into the beer budget
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That's because you have your priorities in proper order.
John S.
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06-08-2014, 08:24 AM
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#103
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Rivet Master
2020 30' Classic
Derwood
, Maryland
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,515
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ag&Au
Another view on this:I saw this in the rear window of a truck yesterday-Anything with spark plugs is not a truck
Ken
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Can I hear an AMEN.
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06-08-2014, 08:31 AM
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#104
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
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Santa Rosa Beach
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Since this discussion has morphed into a gas/diesel dialog, I will take it upon myself to start a new thread to host a gas/diesel interchange.
Brian
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06-08-2014, 08:35 AM
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#105
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3 Rivet Member
2003 25' Safari
Riverside
, California
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 234
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Quote:
Originally Posted by moosetags
Since this discussion has morphed into a gas/diesel dialog, I will take it upon myself to start a new thread to host a gas/diesel interchange.
Brian
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Any modern pick-up discussion will end up with the fuel debate
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06-08-2014, 08:47 AM
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#106
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Rivet Master
2002 30' Classic S/O
Garden Valley
, Idaho
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With all of the new urea DEF (Diesel Emissions Fluid) components, and sensors, if one thing goes wrong, the sensor will shut off the engine or put it into idle only. How does that work in the middle of no-where? No thanks, I was a diesel head for many years, but I got converted back to gas and will never look back. I don't miss anything about a diesel. I've said it again and again, as far as towing an AS, there is no requirement to have a diesel truck as a TV, you WANT one but you surely do not NEED one. To each his own. Consider that some on this forum will swear that a passenger car can tow better and more safely than a 3/4 or 1 ton pickup, vs the need for a diesel TV. The two situations are very far apart IMHO.
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06-13-2014, 02:41 PM
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#107
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Full Time Adventurer
2007 27' International CCD FB
Nomadic
, USA
Join Date: Jul 2013
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I was all ready to purchase a newer 2012 2500HD GMC Sierra, but then my wife and I had a newer Ford Edge as a rental for two weeks in Portland. Needless to say, I loved the car. I've always been a GM guy really, but once in my early 20's I owned a Mustang. Presently we own a Trailblazer, a Corvette and a Pontiac G8 GXP, all of which I'm selling in the short term right this second.
Back to my point, the Ecoboost looks really promising, I've found a few with payloads closer to 1700 (not the max payload) but higher than the lower payload a few folks have complained about.
From my calculations, even with assuming a 1000lb hitch, I should have about 360lbs left in payload after myself, my child and wife. My tool box might weight an extra 50lbs but I'm not sure I need an 1000lbs of available payload. I'm not sure what I'd do with it.
2500 seems like a no brainer, but I just don't want such a large vehicle, and there seems to be so many folks pulling with the smaller trucks.
Plus, GM's trucks have had a disappointedly rental car feeling about their interiors, as in BORING.
Thought I'd stir the pot. We were looking at getting a 2014 27FB's but now as of today my mind has moved towards a used 09 ~ 12 25-27FB International Signature. Still a little undecided, but I've been using the 14 GVWR in my math.
The topic is almost like discussing religion or politics in some of the threads.
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06-13-2014, 03:54 PM
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#108
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Chief Chili Cook
2010 30' Flying Cloud
Bakersfield
, California
Join Date: Feb 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by r carl
And GM sells more 3/4 and 1 ton trucks.
Remember, F150 and F250-F350 are completely different trucks.
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Where are you getting that? GM is getting slaughtered in the HD market, especially in the 1 ton class.
http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2014/04...s-in-2013.html
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06-13-2014, 05:13 PM
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#109
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4 Rivet Member
Durango
, Colorado
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 426
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pappy19
With all of the new urea DEF (Diesel Emissions Fluid) components, and sensors, if one thing goes wrong, the sensor will shut off the engine or put it into idle only. How does that work in the middle of no-where?
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This changed on the Ford Diesel in 2013. At least, it is not like that on my 2013 F-250 Platinum. Now a bad sensor will throw an error code and shutoff the exhaust cleaning filter but it will not put the truck in limp mode.
Now you will get a warning to service the truck immediately.
As for needing a diesel to pull an AS, absolutely not, but here in Colorado it sure helps for those climbs to the State Parks and for those steep descents.
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06-13-2014, 05:19 PM
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#110
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
Lin
, Ne
Join Date: Dec 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by newroswell
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Auto Sales - Markets Data Center - WSJ.com
Ford got slaughtered.
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06-13-2014, 05:46 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
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Hi, trying to confirm or read about what trucks out sell the others. One link doesn't work and the other only states light trucks with no reference to 3/4 and 1 ton trucks. I don't see a slaughter either. Maybe I'm blind or missing something.
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06-13-2014, 05:54 PM
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#112
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Chief Chili Cook
2010 30' Flying Cloud
Bakersfield
, California
Join Date: Feb 2009
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Bob, pickuptrucks.com has been slow today. rcarl, Keep searching buddy. That doesn't show 3/4 and 1 ton sales.
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06-13-2014, 06:01 PM
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#113
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Full Time Adventurer
2007 27' International CCD FB
Nomadic
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Join Date: Jul 2013
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Ford & GM do not release new product lines at the same times. A good example of this is the Mustang & Camaro. If you recall, when the new Mustang arrived in 2005 there was no Camaro. The Mustang was a real seller for Ford, until the new Camaro arrived, which began to outsell the Mustang. Ford is releasing an all new Mustang for 2015, while GM is still using it's current body style. I expect Mustang sales will go up. It's predictable.
Ford and GM however both have new body styles, but the 2014 Chevy has been out a little longer than the as yet to arrive 2015 Ford.
What would of been more exciting and more box office like is if Chevy and Ford released new trucks the same year.
But then they couldn't goose up who sells more with BS.
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06-13-2014, 06:48 PM
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#114
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Chief Chili Cook
2010 30' Flying Cloud
Bakersfield
, California
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 738
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mikekey
Ford & GM do not release new product lines at the same times. A good example of this is the Mustang & Camaro. If you recall, when the new Mustang arrived in 2005 there was no Camaro. The Mustang was a real seller for Ford, until the new Camaro arrived, which began to outsell the Mustang. Ford is releasing an all new Mustang for 2015, while GM is still using it's current body style. I expect Mustang sales will go up. It's predictable.
Ford and GM however both have new body styles, but the 2014 Chevy has been out a little longer than the as yet to arrive 2015 Ford.
What would of been more exciting and more box office like is if Chevy and Ford released new trucks the same year.
But then they couldn't goose up who sells more with BS.
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That's a good point Mike. But for the 3/4 and 1 tons it's not even close.
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