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Old 05-20-2013, 06:28 PM   #323
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Toyota is showing what exteriors and interiors of the 2014 Tundra and 4Runner look like, but no engine specs: All-New 2014 Tundra

The Tundra is more square looking and the front of the 4Runner looks like a pig nose to me.

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Old 05-20-2013, 06:36 PM   #324
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Toyota is showing what exteriors and interiors of the 2014 Tundra and 4Runner look like, but no engine specs: All-New 2014 Tundra

The Tundra is more square looking and the front of the 4Runner looks like a pig nose to me.

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Looks to be heavily influenced by the newer Dodge Ram models. The similarity is striking!
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Old 05-20-2013, 06:39 PM   #325
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Looks to be heavily influenced by the newer Dodge Ram models. The similarity is striking!
While I've no doubt the Tundra would have better resale, and there's a pretty good chance it would be a more trouble-free vehicle, I think the newer Ram actually looks way better, especially than these new pics Gene linked to.

And I agree with Gene, the 4Runner looks like the dog's breakfast.

Weren't we talking about F150s?
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Old 05-21-2013, 12:38 AM   #326
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The front of the 4Runner looks like a pig nose to me.

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I got a good laugh. Seriously, what were theory thinking!
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Old 05-23-2013, 08:16 PM   #327
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Toyota is showing what exteriors and interiors of the 2014 Tundra and 4Runner look like, but no engine specs: All-New 2014 Tundra

The Tundra is more square looking and the front of the 4Runner looks like a pig nose to me.

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Gene,

From my research on the web, it appears that the engine and transmissions will be largely unchanged from the 2013 models. As for tow specs, they may be upped a few hundred pounds or so. The big news for towing seems to be a built-in trailer brake controller and integrated tow-haul mirrors. Of course this is all conjecture and probably the info that has been released is more to gauge consumer response before the actual release and while last minute tuning can take place than to pre-release actual specs. It also makes it look like they are doing something to respond to the competition and keep potential buyers from switching over to a competitor. So now comes the fun part, anticipation....

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Old 05-24-2013, 09:59 AM   #328
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From my research on the web, it appears that the engine and transmissions will be largely unchanged from the 2013 models.
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They did promote the 5.7 L. engine and said nothing about fuel economy, transmission or whether they would aspirate them differently. I don't know if the expensive dealer installed supercharger is still available, but with the smaller V8, that is an interesting alternative to the other brands.

Toyota has usually made major changes every 6 years, so they are stretching it here.

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I thought this thread was about the Ecoboost?
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I thought this thread was about the Ecoboost?
Mine is running great so I have nothing the gripe about.
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Old 05-24-2013, 01:21 PM   #331
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FWIW I have a co-worker that has a 25" SOB and a 2012 2WD F-150 Ecoboost he states the best mileage he has gotten at 60-65 on the interstates is 10.5 with a wing he installed. Before the wing he was getting 9 The worst MPG he has seen is 7.5. in headwinds.

With my 2007 Tundra Crewmax pulling an AS 23FB up and down the west coast Mountains, Winds etc... I have averaged 9-13 MPG. He is pretty upset and feels Ford was optimistic in its number in relation to towing and wishes he had kept his 305

I was in the market a few months ago before I purchased the Tundra to replace my 97 Toy T-100 (that averaged 10-13 MPG a lot more uncomfortably) The price of the new Fords with Eco-boost was at a premium here in the Northwest.

I am very happy with my Used Tundra and it was about half the price of a new Eco-boost. I too read a CR report and the 10 MPG number while towing stated in the report made me reconsider the purchase as 25K will buy a lot of fuel!

The Ford engine is great...but as the saying goes there is no replacement for displacement and larger normally aspirated engines with improved fuel management and aerodynamics may win out when it comes to real world towing, longevity and simplicity. http://www.airforums.com/forums/imag...lies/brows.gif
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Once again those who haven't owned an Ecoboost seem to know more about their performance than those that do. I beg to differ about "normally aspirated" engines versus turbo charged vehicles as i own two of them and live at 7800'. Turbos do much better at altitude.

Just came from Denver to Durango over Kenosha and Wolf Creek which are over 10,000 feet high towing 7200 lbs and the computer states 12.3 mpg average. The Ford gets anywhere from 10-14 mpg towing and averages around 12mpg towing and 25 mpg when not.

There are those who are not satisfied with the published MPG claims because they are based on a 3.15 axle ratio as opposed to the 3.73 or 4.10 they actually buy to tow with. You have to look at reality vs. hearsay in the neighborhood.
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Are estimated mpg while towing even published by Ford. The city/highway numbers or published but I can't find any for towing, if someone has a the information published by Ford please point me in the right direction. Seems like way to many variables to nail that one down.
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FWIW I have a co-worker that has a 25" SOB and a 2012 2WD F-150 Ecoboost he states the best mileage he has gotten at 60-65 on the interstates is 10.5 with a wing he installed. Before the wing he was getting 9 The worst MPG he has seen is 7.5. in headwinds.
Hi, you can't even begin to compare towing mileage with an SOB compared to an Airstream. Tow that SOB with your Toyota and tell us what you get. Or read what mileage people on this forum are getting and then read the same stories on the SOB forum. My Lincoln has gotten between 10.0 and 11.5 towing. [an Airstream]
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"averages around 12mpg towing and 25 mpg when not."

A 50% reduction when towing seems a little excessive.

I certainly don't get 25mpg when not towing, but only lose 2-4 when. 17%

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Mojo said...Once again those who haven't owned an Ecoboost seem to know more about their performance than those that do.

It would seem to me that regardless of published high MTBF (mean time between failure) for the Ford Turbos that if I can achieve the same numbers without that factor what is the benefit? We don't all live at 7800 feet. My co-worker has firsthand knowledge of his gas mileage and I am merely reporting the outcome... faithfully. I have no axe to grind against any manufacturer

This was my choice to purchase a non turbo motor after doing my research and owning other Turbo charged VW and Audi products.

I have been a member of numerous forums and a lurker for the most part. I hope your dismissal of my story and attempted invalidation of my opinion merely shows you are having a bad day.

As always, folks should vote with their pocketbooks. All the best Mojo.
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