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Old 01-16-2008, 01:36 PM   #1
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Ford Explorer as TV for 1967 Globetrotter?

I've just purchased a 1967 Globetrotter and need a TV. I was thinking of purchasing a new Explorer V8 with a tow package installed, but after reading through some of the posts on this thread, I'm wondering whether the Explorer will be long and heavy enough to safely pull the trailer. Most of my trips will be short weekenders and I live in Houston, so the chances of my trailer seeing any mountains are pretty slim. I'd appreciate any thoughts you all might have.
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Old 01-16-2008, 01:54 PM   #2
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I would not tow anthyng bigger than a 4X8 trailer with an Explorer. The reasons are:
1. The transmission is weak.
2. It is to short.
3. It is to light.
4.The salesman will tell you that it will tow your house just sell you the vehicle.
Suggestion Get a pick up a least 3/4 ton. Becouse you will want a bigger trailer in the future.
Regards from Russell in cloudy Tucson Az.
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Old 01-16-2008, 02:11 PM   #3
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A 1967 Globetrotter is a 20' trailer with an empty weight (before awning and propane) of about 3100 lbs. Pack sensibly, and you should have no trouble keeping the weight under 4000 lbs.

From a power perspective, the Explorer would be entirely adequate; in fact, it should perform well, even in the mountains, as long as you are willing to let the engine rev to produce the needed power. SUVs are known for less than ideal stability, but the independent rear suspension of the Explorer is a plus in this regard. Go with the stiffest and narrowest tires you can get for the Explorer, and spend some time figuring out what makes for a good hitch setup.

It is worth considering whether you will want to buy a larger trailer in the future, but I suspect that you bought the Globetrotter as a long term project/collectible. The soft ride of an SUV (as opposed to a heavy pickup) will reduce the beating that the trailer takes on rough highways. And once you become accustomed to the trailer, you will want to take it everywhere.
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Old 01-16-2008, 03:13 PM   #4
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We have towed our '67 Safari with our Explorer V8 for a couple of years with no problems at all. We do mostly shorter trips, but we did tow it over the Rockies once. Good luck and congratulations on your new silver beauty!
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Old 01-16-2008, 03:32 PM   #5
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I would not tow anthyng bigger than a 4X8 trailer with an Explorer. The reasons are:
1. The transmission is weak.
2. It is to short.
3. It is to light.
4.The salesman will tell you that it will tow your house just sell you the vehicle.
Suggestion Get a pick up a least 3/4 ton. Becouse you will want a bigger trailer in the future.
Regards from Russell in cloudy Tucson Az.
I respectively disagree, a 1967 Globetrotter has a dry weight of only 3110. I think that the Explorer should be more than adequate. You do not need a 3/4T pickup for that trailer.

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Old 01-16-2008, 04:59 PM   #6
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1967 Globetrotter - http://www.airstream.com/docs/weights-1.pdf.

I find myself agreeing with Bill. These aren't the Exploders of old.
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Old 01-16-2008, 05:07 PM   #7
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1967 Globetrotter - http://www.airstream.com/docs/weights-1.pdf.

I find myself agreeing with Bill. ...
Now that's scary.

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Old 01-17-2008, 09:21 AM   #8
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Towed similar wght with a '98 Exploder, V6, without problems. You probably will have a evan better experience with a new one. Our present TV is outstanding towing our new 22'SS in the same wght range.
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Old 01-17-2008, 09:36 AM   #9
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I am on my third Explorer and I love them. I pull my 16 fr fibre glass boat with it as well as a utility trailer. Couple years ago I had a 1962 Bambi that I pulled with the explorer. Never any problem. Oh, you can feel the weight all right.

Can you say MEDIA HYPE!!! Just don't use Firestone tires, (although they probably have fixed the separation problem), and watch the tire pressure.

Ever seen the tests that Ford ran where they exploded the tires on several Explorers at high rates of speed, and they stopped with no problem at all? Never was the vehicle. It was the tires separating and inexperienced drivers.
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Old 01-17-2008, 09:45 AM   #10
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I have a 99 exploder (v6, stick) that I have towed with and would be happy push it over a cliff.... after it goes over I'll pitch the parts that have fallen off it over too. window crank, door handle, seatback hinge (2), seperated tread, rear door latch, rear view mirror, assorted trim, switches, nobs, ..... unless some one wants to make me a great offer?

It can be done - not fun, but it can be done. The new exploders are bigger, heavier and rated to tow more than the older ones.
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Old 01-17-2008, 11:49 AM   #11
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I have a 99 exploder (v6, stick) that I have towed with and would be happy push it over a cliff.... after it goes over I'll pitch the parts that have fallen off it over too. window crank, door handle, seatback hinge (2), seperated tread, rear door latch, rear view mirror, assorted trim, switches, nobs, ..... unless some one wants to make me a great offer?
If you give it to me, I can retire the (wrecked) Dodge Dynasty that Marie is having to drive right now. I am still on good terms with Ford, they'll probably happily supply me with a box of parts to replace the ones that fell off...
As for a tow vehicle, maybe a nice 1/2 ton van with a small V8 would be good.
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Old 01-17-2008, 11:50 AM   #12
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You didnít elaborate on what trim and option level of Explorer your looking at but I am dubious of the 7,300 pound max tow rating Iíve seen. However I donít think youíll have a problem pulling around the GT if you keep an eye on the CGVWR. The Triton V-8s are a bit thirsty but make up for it with loads of torque when you need it.
I looked briefly at the mid-sized chassis but found a great deal on an Expedition. Works great!
As mentioned earlier if you think youíll be upgrading then youíve already got the bigger TV. This is the situation Iím currently in, as the better half sees no problem moving up to a 27 footer.
If you donít already use one, a weight-distributing hitch may be in order. Iíve found it makes a big difference in the handling of the rig.

Good Luck,
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Old 03-27-2008, 03:08 PM   #13
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Explorer will do fine.
I have an ‘06 Explorer with the 4.6L V8 and towed my 1965 Safari (22’; 3400 lbs) from Georgia to Utah (1900 miles in 3 days; averaged 60mph). No problems at all, even across Nebraska with some 30mph cross winds. The newer Explorers have a fully boxed frame and independent rear suspension, the result is the rear end does not tend to sway side to side even when passed by Semis. The rated max towing is 7200 lbs (the dealer said “comfortable” towing should not exceed 5400 lbs 75% of max).

The new Explorers are definitely a lot different than the older ones. I also have an older one, 1994 V6 stick; been very happy with it also, but wouldn’t pull a big trailer it. It did great with my old Coleman tent trailer though.


P.S. I don’t work for Ford, and thankfully don’t own any of their stock.
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Old 03-27-2008, 03:32 PM   #14
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wondering whether the Explorer will be enough to safely pull the trailer

The Explorer will pull it but not much safety margin.

I pulled a 1964 20' Avion with a 95 Explorer. It worked on moderate hills and speeds under 55 mph.

Over sixty mph then trailer motions from road bumps and passing 18 wheelers would start to move the Explorer around in a frightening way. Trips are no longer fun when you are worried that the trailer is going to carry you into the ditch or oncoming traffic.

The Explorer would not pull the Avion up the steep grade near Terlinqua, TX on Hwy 170 without over heating and having to shift into 4wd low range.

Engine horsepower and torque are important but so is weight, long wheelbase and big brakes. Too much TV is much better than too little.


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I've just purchased a 1967 Globetrotter and need a TV. I was thinking of purchasing a new Explorer V8 with a tow package installed, but after reading through some of the posts on this thread, I'm wondering whether the Explorer will be long and heavy enough to safely pull the trailer. Most of my trips will be short weekenders and I live in Houston, so the chances of my trailer seeing any mountains are pretty slim. I'd appreciate any thoughts you all might have.
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