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Old 05-27-2019, 09:13 PM   #21
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Here is a pic of the where we placed the sticker.
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Old 05-27-2019, 09:18 PM   #22
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I was worried that by slipping the sticker slightly under the propane tank and also under the tongue jack would hurt the operation. But it works just fine. I taped it into place and tried it before I permanently mounted it. The reflection issue is a valid concern. My Expedition has lost the sticker a few times in bright sunlight, but that is why you have to know how to back up the analog way. Good luck with your set up.
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Old 06-01-2019, 05:04 PM   #23
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Max has arrive. Got hitch adjusted and trailer and Max leveled. Tried to plug in umbilical and it will not fit. Bigger in diameter than outlet on Max. Suggestions and has anyone else had this problem?


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Old 06-01-2019, 06:17 PM   #24
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I'm excited for you having your Max!

About the plug: Is it bigger by just a hair, or by a lot?

And are you plugging it in with the side "up" to match the Max? I heard on another thread that Ford & GM have both put out vehicles recently where the outlet is "upside down".
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Old 06-01-2019, 08:02 PM   #25
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We just traded in our F150 for a 2019 Expedition. We tow a FC 30' and so far everything seems to be working fine. A little more comfortable ride and being 3' shorter than the F150 much easier to turn.
So how is the ride compared to the F150 while towing?
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Old 06-01-2019, 08:45 PM   #26
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SS; alot I tried rotating the plug as there "notches" @ 3, 6, 9, &12. No luck. I looked on e-trailer and they offer at least 7 different 7 pins. There is no mfg listed on the plug, so will be hit and miss to get the right one. All this and due to leave on Wednesday.


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Old 06-02-2019, 05:24 AM   #27
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I'm at a loss. We have the Max and absolutely did not run into that problem. I was going to suggest that you take a look at the tab, because ours is rotated to the 3 o’clock position but apparently you have already checked that out. Cannot imagine what the problem might be. Have you looked for possibly any debris or obstruction in your Max's socket? What is the diameter of your plug?
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Old 06-02-2019, 05:27 AM   #28
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Another thought: are any of the blades in the socket misaligned or bent?
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Old 06-02-2019, 06:56 AM   #29
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It appears to be more of the diameter than position or pins.


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Old 06-02-2019, 07:00 AM   #30
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I might ad, the location of the plug doesn't help either nor the way the plug cover opens; side to side vs up. engineering; must NOT been a camper.


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Old 06-02-2019, 07:20 AM   #31
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What are the diameters you are dealing with? The socket on my Max is just a shade under 1.75" inside diameter, and my trailer plug outside diameter is about 1 5/8". Where do your measurements differ from those?
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Old 06-02-2019, 07:59 AM   #32
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Another thought. Install new end on vehicle, then talk to Ford dealer about prob. if end faulty ask for compensation of costs, or else see if they would install new end as IMO faulty. Another take cord from AS to Ford dealer let them fig. out how to handle, be explicit that you are leaving Wed. & must be rectified one way or other.
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Old 06-02-2019, 11:54 AM   #33
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3.5 liter

Wouldn't this little engine need high revs to produce enough towing power? And wouldn't this lead to premature wear?
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Old 06-02-2019, 12:24 PM   #34
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Wouldn't this little engine need high revs to produce enough towing power? And wouldn't this lead to premature wear?

No, it's a turbo and produces more hp and torque than the old 5.4 V8. This engine is 375hp (or 400 on premium fuel) @ 5000 rpm and 470 lb ft torque @ 3500 rpm. The old V8 by comparison was 300 hp @ 5000 rpm and only 365 lb ft @ 3750 rpm. This V6 is paired to a 10-speed transmission. At normal cruising speeds, the rpm for me are typically around 2000-2500 rpm depending upon conditions, sometimes even around 1750 rpm.
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I didn't try the 3:00 position, will try in AM. As for size, it should fit. I measured and got same as EB.
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Old 06-02-2019, 07:12 PM   #36
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Look inside the socket [with a flashlight] and at the plug. There should be a ridge/valley which -- mechanically -- allows insertion in only one way.



Are you sure you have tried all variations?

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SS; alot I tried rotating the plug as there "notches" @ 3, 6, 9, &12. No luck. I looked on e-trailer and they offer at least 7 different 7 pins. There is no mfg listed on the plug, so will be hit and miss to get the right one.
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What does your dealer say? Has Ford changed things up?

Please post photos of your plug and the socket.

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Old 06-02-2019, 07:17 PM   #37
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I didn't try the 3:00 position, will try in AM. As for size, it should fit. I measured and got same as EB.
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Just FYI, mine does insert with the tab in the 3 o'clock position.
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Old 06-03-2019, 07:39 AM   #38
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Thanks, Bob tried the 3:00 and it WORKED. Another problem solved, now the next. I've looked all over for the button to turn OFF the alarm when backing the trailer. Couldn't find so tried the dash controls; but under what heading? Book shows P///^, but where is it?
I'm asking ? now, but due in class this PM. Dealer required instructions.


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Thanks, Bob tried the 3:00 and it WORKED. Another problem solved . . .
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The solution was that simple?

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Thanks, Bob tried the 3:00 and it WORKED. Another problem solved, now the next. I've looked all over for the button to turn OFF the alarm when backing the trailer. Couldn't find so tried the dash controls; but under what heading? Book shows P///^, but where is it?
I'm asking ? now, but due in class this PM. Dealer required instructions.


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