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Old 02-20-2007, 11:37 AM   #15
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To all,, i tow with it,,, and find in climbing higher elevations, it is slow in comparison to a diesel engine truck,, cannot keep up,,, towing the smaller Bambi with it is much easier and less stress on the engine,,, i like the Expedition,, but,,depending on your travel plans,,and if mountains are on your usual agenda,, would go with the diesel,, if only rare mountain outings,,, it is fine,,, hang out in the right hand lane and it will plug away to the top,, donna

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Old 02-20-2007, 11:52 AM   #16
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I see a lot of posts recommending diesel engines, and they are nice - I have towed with them.
But they are NOT required, nor should anyone feel that because they don't own one they are somehow inferior or underpriveliged. Many of us tow with gasoline engines, either 1/2 or 3/4 ton chassis. While it's true that we won't win a race to the top of the hill, who's racing?

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Old 02-20-2007, 12:23 PM   #17
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Well, there you have it, lots of opinions. I always get a little concerned when some of the opinions express doubt. Most folks that drive/own whatever vehicle is the topic of discussion will make a case to defend their choice for various reasons. Just because you CAN pull it with a certain TV, doesn't mean you SHOULD.
I have yet to see a post doubting the towing capability of a ton truck. A ton is fine for up to 23 or so (and their associated weights), above that, I would ask myself just how far and how often I realistically expect to tow. Within an hour or so of home? Probably fine (as long as you are still within LEGAL limits). I wouldn't advocate an HD truck for smaller campers, but I do believe you are a good candidate for a 3/4 ton chassis.

I am not the type of person who likes to put my family in a compromising situation.
You may want to read a post about my experience with ton trucks; .
Also, a search on crashes/accidents will yield additional discussions, one recently by a young lady.

If you own that TV now, you may try it for a season. If you are in the market, I would give serious consideration to a ton.
Choose wisely, be safe.

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Old 02-20-2007, 12:30 PM   #18
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Dave -- With my aim on retirement, long distance travel and working well at all elevations, I was able to maneuver my finances to buy a D/A equipped GMC one year ago. Even worked an extra 6 months to rationalize the changeover. You are absolutely correct about gasoline being an effective (even cost-effective!) alternative. Diesels have strong tow power but their advantage at altitude is principally due to turbocharging. I now have an "old" one stage turbo, with two stage blowers online for the '07 models. Airstream devotees (especially in the 25' to 28' range!) should be able to find great tow vehicles without having to resort to diesels, 8L Chevs, or 10-cylinder Fords.

However you look at it, a 1/2-ton capacity tow vehicle needs to be analyzed carefully. Pulling up to no more than 85% of tow capacity or TV payload are principles I learned from my earliest times on the Forums -- gotta pass that on!

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Old 03-01-2007, 07:06 AM   #19
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just returned from the fla state rally and saw a myraid of tow vehicles (even 56 caddy towing 25 classic)...i'm happy towing my 25 classic with the 06 expedition with the heavy duty package and load levelers. when it's hooked up the entire rig is perfectly rear end sag...prodigy works great...equa-lizer is $2000 less than hensley and seems to be doing the job..albeit i do get the wind off semis at 70 mph....i came from a motorcoach and when i went up mountains i needed to down shift and go what? why are we in a hurry? i'm getting 11.2 mpg...better than the 7.5 i got in the coach..van
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Old 03-01-2007, 07:12 AM   #20
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Once you cross into the widebody 25' and larger, 3/4 ton really is suggested. I think it will tow it, but I think in a number of conditions, you may find it lacking, while in others, you may find it does well.
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Old 03-01-2007, 07:18 AM   #21
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Having towed with a 5.4L Gas F-250 and a 6.0L Diesel F-250. I can say the reserve power of the Diesel is nice to have. The Diesel is not working as hard and the Gas underthe same load. This should translate into longer life of the truck.
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Old 07-02-2007, 09:28 AM   #22
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OK Just came back from a 3,000 mi trip. Went up and down some very steep grades including Priests grade to Yosemite, the Cascades and Rte. 20 from Willits to Ft. Bragg. We had no problems. I could hold 60mph if I wanted or needed to. We cruised at 1500 rpms at 60 mph. Up to 2500 rpms for hills and hit 3500rpms when I needed to pass on a steep grade.

Got between 10mpg and 13mpg depending on the terrain. Have the tow package, an Equil-i-zer and a Prodigy.
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Old 07-02-2007, 02:44 PM   #23
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I am perfectly happy with my Expedition; I have crossed the Sonora Pass in CA (trailers not recommended) with no problems and Red Mountain between Durango and Ouray, problems.

I know you people with the diesels and 3/4 ton, 1 ton duallies have superior vehicles.

I do not care.

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