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Old 03-05-2004, 05:38 PM   #1
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Ford Excursion Tire Recall

The Firestone Steeltex radials load range 'D' are being recalled and replaced with Load range 'E' tires.

The tires are not strong enough to carry the weight imposed by towing a trailer.

The Load Range 'E' tires are 10 ply and will carry the load nicely.

If you have a Ford Excursion, with these tires, take action now. Firestone will happily replace all 5 tires for free. A Florida couple had a tire separate and caused their Excursion to roll over. They got away with a few bruises thanks to the Excursions construction. But it will ruin your day.

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Old 03-05-2004, 06:23 PM   #2
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Firestone Recall

IIRC, there were a number of Excursion owners on RV.net and iRV2 who replaced them on their own due to the mushy sidewalls that caused instability when towing.
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Old 03-05-2004, 06:30 PM   #3
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Poor Ford and Firestone....the hits just keep on this might effect besides the Excursion.
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Steeltex "E" Radials

Thanks Startrekker! got the PM too!

We've already been there... had to replace the "D" rated tires after our first trip with the Behemoth. The sidewalls just plain split on us. The last 100 miles home, then the 30 to the Firestone store were white knuckle all the way! I was expecting all four corners to blow out at once!

Firestone decided to replace the 'D' range and pro-rate the tread on mine. I think it's time to head back to the Firestone store and get a refund for the remainder now!

I'll report back on how they treat me. BTW, the "E" range Steeltex's have been excellent. No worries there! Just make sure they're inflated to 70psi for towing!

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If you are going to replace your tires .. consider the Pirelli Scorpions ... they are E rated ... my F-350 came with them from the Ford factory.

I used to run some Pirellis on a few of my bikes ... have always been impressed with the company and their products.
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Old 03-06-2004, 12:04 PM   #6
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Startrekker was very kind and just PM us to his thread.

We have those tires and will take action Monday.

We had been thinking of replacing the tires this summer anyway so this recall is sweet.

After some research we narrowed our choice to these two - any suggestions/comments highly appreciated:

- Pirelli Scorpion 265/75 16 E SR

- Michelin LTX M/S 265/75 R 16 E

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Ford Excursion Tire Recall

Greetings KIMILI!

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- Michelin LTX M/S 265/75 R 16 E
The Michelin LTX series that you are considering are the tires that I use on my K2500 Suburban tow vehicle. While they were somewhat more pricey than the other tires that I considered; they have been aboslutely wonderful. They replaced my OEM Firestone Steeltex radials at 44,000 miles. I now have 124,000 miles on the truck (80,000 miles on the tires) and my dealer tells me that they will likely go another 6,000 miles before replacement is needed. Things that I have learned about these tires include:

1. They are very sensitive to alignment. The shop who did my alignment indicated that they keep alignment tolerances closer on the Michelin tire than on the Steeltex to avoid tracking problems (I struggled with directional stability issues until I found this alignment shop after 10,000 miles with the Michelin tires).

2. The LTX series tires are happiest when inflated to their maximum sidewall pressure. Even when inflated to the maximum my ride was as good with the Michelins as with the Steeltex radials inflated to the factory recommendation.

3, Rotation at 6,000 mile interval is critical to their long-term life. In fact, this has become a regular every-other oil-change routine service with my mechanic.

Good luck with your decision!

Kevin

P.S.: My next set of tires for the Suburban will be another set of Michelin LTX. To replace my usual Good Years, these tires had to be very impressive - - and they have converted me to Michelin at least for my truck. My cars still ride on my favored Good Years.
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Good luck....

I wish you all better luck with this round of tire recalls than we had when the Firestones on Explorers were recalled.

We bought a new exploder a few years ago that came with those firestones (pre-recall) and almost immediatly replaced them because they didn't handle well - most especially at high speeds.... they felt really squirelly. 1 week after we bought a new set of tires for our 2 week old vehicle the recall was issued. Because we had replaced them prior to the recall, both Ford and Firestone refused to cover our costs. So much for customer service.
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Old 03-06-2004, 10:13 PM   #9
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If Firestone is replacing LRD with LRE Steeltex, take it.

I am in the Rio Grande valley for the winter. The number of 250 level trucks here is unbelievable. They are pulling heavier than any airstream and all of the guys I talk to love the Firestone E Steeltex. They are getting 40-50,000 miles and no problems.

Nothing wrong with the Michelin LTX.

If there is a problem with the Excursion tire, it is Ford's fault just like it was on the Explorer. They are counting pennies and it is their final decision on the tire to spec on a vehicle.
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As big and heavy as the Excursion is, what was Ford thinking of when going with D rated tires instead of E rated? Oh yea, pennies, nickles, dimes, etc., etc.
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Nope.... more like cushy ride than cost. I don't know for sure but I'd bet the springs and shocks are softer than the F series.
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Old 03-07-2004, 11:28 AM   #12
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Michelin versus Pirelli

Thanks Kevin.
We too love Michelin and have had them on most of our cars with very high satisfaction.

The Pirelli cost less and have raving good comments in Europe but have not heard much about them here, especially from people who tow like us.

Porky seems to like them.

Anyone else has them?

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sorry Wingfoot but after all these mishaps with Firestone we really don't feel comfortable with the brand anymore. We'll try everything to get the refund ($500) and not the replacement.
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Update...

As many of you know, the Firestone Steeltex "D" ranges on my Excursion experienced near-failure of the sidewalls when I brought the Behemoth home last May. A quick trip to the Firestone dealer in Iowa City resulted in a coerced pro-rated adjustment on the "D" range tires when I upgraded to the Steeltex "E" ranges. I have to say I've been happy with the "E" range Steeltex tires.

Anyway, after a call to the Firestone Steeltex Hotline (800)465-1904 I'm pleased to say that Firestone has agreed to reimburse me for the difference I had to pay for the "E" range tires and is going to replace my spare at no cost as well. It seems they're very interested in retaining their customer base. We're waiting for the paperwork to arrive. I'll use THAT money to replace the crummy Ford rotors on the Excursion... but that's another rant altogether...

BTW, I believe RKM's earlier comment about cost savings was exactly the issue. The Excursion, at nearly 7,000 lbs unladen just flat overloaded the "D" range tires at the pressures that were recommended, although NHTSA, in their statements said that the tires are being recalled because of a number of different kinds of failures being seen, including both sidewall failures, throwing tread, and a number of other problems, none of which have apparently been seen on the "E" rated tires.

As another aside, I also recently acquired a '92 Toyota pickup with Wilderness AT's on it that the NHTSA says Firestone voluntarily recalled on October 4, 2001. After taking IT to the local Firestone dealer and being told that the tires hadn't been recalled, a call to Firestone Consumer Affairs (800)367-3872 found that the tires HAD been recalled. They called their store manager (with whom I had spoken) and are trying to convince him and his regional manager that the tires should be replaced, apparently over their objections. This should be resolved by next Tuesday or Wednesday... I think this is more an issue with the local Firestone store than Firestone Corporate at this point...

I'll report back on the continuing saga...

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Old 03-14-2004, 06:45 PM   #14
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Thanks everyone for the feedback.

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I think this is more an issue with the local Firestone store than Firestone Corporate at this point...
Unfortunately we have to confirm this!!

When I called the customer service number they told me that we could either get the tires replaced with the E load or $100 per tire.

The local Firestone dealer claims our tires are not part of the recall and that even if they were there's no way he'd give us the $ instead of the new E load tires!

He also added that he would never drive an Excursion with D load tires on it and that Ford was saving pennies to the detriment of it's customers.

He desperately wants to sell us the: Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo E load.

Anyone know how these compare to the Michelin?

After further review we've opted out on the Pirelli. We also looked into the Goodyear Wrangler but the AT's are discontinued.

Are we correct in saying that the general opinion here is that an Excursion SHOULD have E load tires on and not D??

All advice welcome
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