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Old 11-19-2008, 02:33 PM   #1
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Ford e250/e350 Vans - anybody have one - what are your impressions

I am thinking of purchasing a 2008 Ford e350 12 Passanger Van. Does anybody have one of these?

What kind of mileage do you get?

How does it tow?

How do you like it?
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Old 11-19-2008, 05:30 PM   #2
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I have been around them. I have owned 2 vans, Chevy and Ford. They where both Half tons. The Ford was by far a better Tow vehicle. The Chevy got better MPG.

My Advice, Either rent one from enterprise ( they keep them instock for Airport transportation) or Call a local limo/airport transportation co. Ask them what you want to know.

The older Fords where great for towing but didnt get good MPG. That was the old push rod engine. The new engines are alot different.
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Consider an E450 dually mini motorhome if you can find one inexpensively. They're a superior tow vehicle.

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Old 11-19-2008, 06:03 PM   #4
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Consider an E450 dually mini motorhome if you can find one inexpensively. They're a superior tow vehicle.Roger
Heah,.....but

Roger is quite correct, but there are a couple of downsides. For whatever reason most of the Ford MiniMoHo's have the V-10 gasoline engine - but, the gasser only option minimizes the 7.3/6.0/6.4 diesel problems and debates.

A real problem (for my uses, anyway) is that anything over the length of a "shortie" full size van is a real bugger to handle and back the trailer into a typical State Park site.

The 450 is a bit of a different animal since it is a much more robust vehicle, but the different trailer handling characteristics between a 150 short and extended van (due to the distance from the axle to the hitch) is very real and very severe - so, if you go the conventional e-250/350 approach, stick with the 9 passenger (non extended) version.

I currently use a 3/4 ton shortie Dodge van as my tow vehicle, but, should an opportunity come along for an upgrade, I would seriously look at options. I have owned a 1 ton extended Dodge in the past - what a rough ride! I currently use a 1/2 ton Ford shortie van as my daily driver - great ride and handles well. I have towed the 31 foot Sovereign with the Ford from time to time, and the 3/4 ton Dodge, even though all of the specifications and sizes are VERY similar to the Ford, does a much better job overall.

I do have to add that the Dodge ride, unloaded, is a bit harsh, but settles down nicely once loaded for travel with the Reese weight distribution system adjusted properly.
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Old 11-19-2008, 06:47 PM   #5
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The e350 has a longer(18 inches) overhang at the hitch point. They make the body longer not the wheelbase. They always advise to keep the rear overhang as short as possible.
Also the 350 has heavy duty suspension and that might make for a harsh ride.
I tow a 31 footer with a e 150 with a 5.4 gasser.
Works fine. When I get a new one it will be the same but I will get the 3.73 rear end ratio not the 3.55 that this one has.
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Old 11-19-2008, 08:16 PM   #6
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BigAl is right on the extended body. Stick with the 10 passenger, the overhang on the 12 passenger will crush the front side trailer segment and will limit your turning radius, and require more weight distribution.

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I have one

We bought a 2006 350 last year specifically to tow the airstream. Got 11mpg on the last trip over 600mi round trip with the 5.4l engine. Ours is the shorter 12pass model, most people remove the rear seat for space. Love it.
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What is inexpensive?

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Consider an E450 dually mini motorhome if you can find one inexpensively. They're a superior tow vehicle.

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What would be a good cost for this in your opinion?
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Old 11-20-2008, 04:03 AM   #9
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We bought a 2006 350 last year specifically to tow the airstream. Got 11mpg on the last trip over 600mi round trip with the 5.4l engine. Ours is the shorter 12pass model, most people remove the rear seat for space. Love it.
Holmes,

Does yours have the extended overhang? I think the shorter van is a 9 passenger? Do you have a picture (trying to figure out if the extended - ie 12 seater - is a-ok for towing).

Thanks!
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Old 11-20-2008, 04:05 AM   #10
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BigAl is right on the extended body. Stick with the 10 passenger, the overhang on the 12 passenger will crush the front side trailer segment and will limit your turning radius, and require more weight distribution.

Michael
Michael,

Thanks for the response - can you clarify about how that will crush the front segment? Isnt the hitch still off the rear bumper (no matter ho far that is from the rear wheels?)

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I have a 2003 Sportsmobile RB. It works great for towing a 29' AS. 5.4 engine gets us over the highest passes with little strain. Gas: about 10 mpg.
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Michael,

Thanks for the response - can you clarify about how that will crush the front segment? Isnt the hitch still off the rear bumper (no matter ho far that is from the rear wheels?)

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Sig,
It has to do with the limited turning radius caused by the larger overhang and the pivot point (which are the rear wheels) I know, I have an e-350 and I can not make the same turn or have the same turning angle that other vehicles with less of an overhang.
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Holmes,

Does yours have the extended overhang? I think the shorter van is a 9 passenger? Do you have a picture (trying to figure out if the extended - ie 12 seater - is a-ok for towing).

Thanks!
We have the shorter, and it is a 12 passenger. The longer one is a 15 passenger-- at least for 06 models like ours. Hard to tell since many people take out the last row, ours lives permanently in the garage and can "only" carry 9 people with seatbelts with the seat removed. FYI, we bought a lease return with 20K miles they can be good deals with the remainder of the 30K warranty to check things out. Make sure to get the rear heat and A/C.

The only colors we ever see in the regular 350 are blue/maroon/white/silver.
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How much room in the back

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We have the shorter, and it is a 12 passenger. The longer one is a 15 passenger-- at least for 06 models like ours. Hard to tell since many people take out the last row, ours lives permanently in the garage and can "only" carry 9 people with seatbelts with the seat removed. FYI, we bought a lease return with 20K miles they can be good deals with the remainder of the 30K warranty to check things out. Make sure to get the rear heat and A/C.

The only colors we ever see in the regular 350 are blue/maroon/white/silver.
Thanks for the info. With the last row removed - how much space is there? ALso - what Kind of mileage are you getting (owing and not towing)?

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