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Old 11-25-2008, 12:09 PM   #15
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Enterprise sells these all across the country, in both 12 and 9 passenger versions. The company website is user friendly and has them listed nationwide. Some only have 20k miles or less and under 20k. All have rear a/c. When you think what a pick up cost, these are a great deal. Be careful as some do not have the 5.4, a must for towing. Also, they may have lower rear end ratio, but that could be changed. I would love to convert one with a full size bed in back and a minimal port a potti/ sink closet. Use the space under the bed as storage.
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Old 11-25-2008, 04:33 PM   #16
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E 350 extended 15 passenger

We tow our little 6.7 Minuet with the Ford E350 extended van. The ride is a little harsh, but we don't do alot of long distance traveling with it. We are getting about 10 mpg towing. 15 mpg other times (regardless of weight carried). There is alot of overhang after the rear axle. Larry says it is a pain. Seems to give alot of extra leverage to the trailer to work on the back axle. Larry says it is not a good tow vehicle for most drivers. He always takes extra care with it. But we LOVE the space. We can remove all of the seats and Larry has made a platform bed with storage underneath. It is about a queen sized bed. We put a 5 gal. water jug, dishpan, porta potty, microwave, small electric heater and a small AC in there. Larry was able to make a pattern for the passenger side window and put the AC in when we need cooling. Works good. I made a privacy curtain in front and velcro curtains for the windows all the way around. Perfect! We have traveled in it for 7 wks. and had a blast...after all we are from the Hippie generation! LOL
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Old 11-26-2008, 08:51 AM   #17
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I wondered about the real long version, it does have severe overhang from rear axle.

Still, what you have is something I am very interested in, I cross the country 4 times/year. i am finding I only need the A/S when out west, and use it very little when home in Michigan. What would work out is the shorter version, set up as you have done, and then we could cross the country with a comfortable bed to rest in, and little potti and sink. Then, on those long runs, a motel every other day, cutting travel time down significantly with lot of comfort. The lease on the f150 comes up in May, this might be the next choice.
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Old 11-26-2008, 06:05 PM   #18
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smaller version

The 12 passenger van is probably going to be a little tight to carry all the stuff that we carry along, but it might work out ok. I forgot to mention that Larry installed another battery underneath and wired it in. I sleep with a CPAP for sleep apnea and we wanted to be able to use it just in case we were in a spot without electricity. He wired it in so that if we need to use it for the van he has to flip a switch and we are ready to go. Also, he hard wired an electrical box under the driver's side seat, ran the cord thru the floor and up to the front engine/hood area in a spot that he can keep a small coil of cord. When we arrive at a place that has electricity and we want to hook up to shore power, we simply open the hood, pull out the power cord and run it to the plug in. Works great! We have one of those small Koolatron refrigerators tht fits between the front seats. It keeps food 20+degrees below ambient temperature. That worked great in the spring time out in the SW. It would need AC to help out the ambient temps in the summertime though. We used it mainly for bottled drinking water, a small container of juice or milk, and some lunchmeats and cheese. Our travel time was limited and we were not camping in one spot for long so it worked out very well for us. Some truck stops on the highways offer showers, or as you said, you could stop and do a motel now and then. Some of the nice campgrounds had shower houses that were heated. I carried an spring loaded curtain rod with a plastic shower curtain, so that I could cordon off a smaller space to cut down on the airflow in the shower stalls. Feb. in some of the sw was a little chilly in places and it came in handy.
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Ford e350 7.3 liter diesel extended van. Pulls the 31' classic with no effort.
Use Mobil 1 synthetic AFT 21 quarts that's prevents slipping over using Fords ATF. Milage is about 12 to 14 fully loaded but will pull you up the steepest grades at about 40 to 45 MPH.
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Ford e350 7.3 liter diesel extended van. Pulls the 31' classic with no effort.
Use Mobil 1 synthetic AFT 21 quarts that's prevents slipping over using Fords ATF. Milage is about 12 to 14 fully loaded but will pull you up the steepest grades at about 40 to 45 MPH.


I just went to the ford web site, interesting they do not offer the diesel in the window van version anymore. Only the v10, which is a great engine. Still, seems strange they would drop the diesel.
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I towed with seven different suburbans and loved them all. The Ford one ton van I had for a year or so was a huge disappointment. It was very hard to see out of and difficult to back with for the same reason.

The fact that the diesel block cracked on me was also a cause of great disappointment and ended up costing me around $10k when all was said and done. Although I don't have a very high opinion of GM in general the suburban is a pretty good vehicle over all.
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