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Old 09-16-2005, 02:51 PM   #29
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They don't call it an Isuzu diesel because it is a DURAMAX. Made by Duramax, a joint venture between General Motors and Isuzu. The Duramax plant is in Moraine, Ohio.

The Allison 1000 is a downgraded version of the Allison 2000 and 3000 from what I have read. It contains about 1/3rd the parts of a 4L80E. I have seen the clutches, they are quite beefy.
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Old 09-16-2005, 03:59 PM   #30
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For those with Manual Transmissions

I have been running a 1993 Chevy k1500 Extened Cab Stepside since new.
It has a Manual Transmission and I had to order the truck from the factory.
This has been a most reliable machine for me (I am now at 304,000km and replaced the Clutch for the first time at 260,000km)..
When I ordered it I put the top of the line interior into it.
Cloth Reclining Bucket seats, Cruise, Stereo etc, I would have liked leather and electric mirrors and power heated seats but that came a year and a half later.

This year we decided to get into a new truck (Diesel for the farm). Again I wanted the Manual Transmission and I knew I would have to order.
GM will not offer the top of the line interior with the Manual because there is a plastic Console that is placed on the tranmission hump, and that would be where the stick comes out of the floor.

Went with the Ford F250 PSD. Ford still allows the Lariat interior with the Standard. I keep my vehicles till they die and this truck will be scheduled to be replaced in 12 years. Towing the A/S has been no problem in this truck, I have only had to shift out of 6th while running on open hilly roads twice, the power boost works great. On the old chevy I would have been shifting many more times.
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Old 09-16-2005, 04:38 PM   #31
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2airishuman,

Man, I really like to read your posts...they are well thought out and well written. I can't say that I noticed that the interior of the Dodge lacked the quality of the GMC or the Ford....I looked at all three before buying my Ram, but I will agree with the idea that the interior is not put together ergonomically, but only for the new 06 Ram....it is different than my 05...for whatever reason they decided to mess with the cupholders again, the fatal flaw in my old 97.

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Old 09-17-2005, 03:29 PM   #32
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what's in a name? according to juliet........

"what’s in a name?
that which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet"

hi folks

well pick, you couldn't be a better example of how marketing influences beliefs or facts....yes gm and isuzu are partners but it's a financial partnership...

gm provided the $ and their parameters/needs and isuzu provided every single bit of design, technology, build experience and so on, even the plant design was based on other isuzu plants worldwide...... duramax is just a marketing word.....and a very effective one....gm and isuzu have had a relationship back for 40plus years....and isuzu is a/the world leader in diesel production and technology.....i'm not suggesting the dmax isn't a fine engine; it is....and it's assembled in ohio from bits made world wide....like ohio hondas and ohio airstreams....

it's a bit like acura and lexus which are "brands" only here. while the same models exist worldwide as hondas and toyotas.....

or the van used to make airstream interstates that carries the dodge, mercedes and freightliner brand names....just pick the one that means value for you.

please google the terms "isuzu duramax diesel" and you can get most of the details....but i've followed this issue from an investment/financial perspective for years. it's an isuzu plant with dmax on the door....and that's not a bad thing. isuzu makes fine powerplants.

the best thing gm has done in diesel development was let someone else develop and build their diesels....and then do marketing in such a manner as to foster the "made in usa" pride you display.....hey it's a great engine.....

30% huh? "downgraded" version is the best description i've read.....it really is a son of allison.......

my point in the first post and this final post is that we are highly influenced by branding names and understand less about actual product origins....

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why i drive a international harvester powerstroke instead of a cummins diesel or isuzu duramax......

and sometimes eat hagen daz ice cream.......

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Actually, I would have been more inclined to buy my diesel powered GMC pickup, if it had an Isuzu branded, Kubota or Yanmar diesel engine in it. I know the Japanese know how to build diesels. If it had been a GM exclusive design or even a Caterpillar, I would have shyed away from it. Probably would have bought a Dodge with a Cummins in it.
I have a Ford Powerstroke extended cab dually, that I am driving here, while I am helping out in Mississippi. It is snappy, but I just don't like the feel of Fords. I likes my GMC..!
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Ford brake controller question

2airishuman and others with new Fords? If you have a sudden trailer control problem, how do you activate the integral brake controller alone if you just want to use the trailer brakes? My Prodigy has a simple lever that is very accessible where mounted and provides incremental control -- as much as I wish. Please compare that to your built-in brake controller -- at least I can see on Ford's website where it is mounted.

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Canoe Stream,The Tow Command controller has a lever similar to a prodigy or other add-on controllers.You can activate the trailer's brakes by activating the lever.Dennis
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2airishuman and others with new Fords? If you have a sudden trailer control problem, how do you activate the integral brake controller alone if you just want to use the trailer brakes? My Prodigy has a simple lever that is very accessible where mounted and provides incremental control -- as much as I wish. Please compare that to your built-in brake controller -- at least I can see on Ford's website where it is mounted.

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I have a '05 F-250 PS Diesel Supercrew with the TC and 3.73 rear-end; the brake controler is located just below the center of the dash board. There is an adjustment button for more/less braking when making the normal adjustment. Just to the left are two black levers: one stationary and one operable. If you need one-time additional braking or braking for trailer only, you squeeze the levers together. This will manually apply the trailer brakes only. So far I haven't needed to use this feature so I assume this is all that is needed.

BTW, I have put just over 4k miles on mine since I bought it in April...before all the employee discount pricing. I haven't got my Airestream yet so I haven't had the chance to tow with it. Driving it strickly locally around town I get 16.2 mpg avg. and 19.6 mpg avg combined. The ride is firm as you would expect from a 3/4 ton truck. It drives great for a truck as large as it is (short bed). But like an Excursion, parking at Wally-World requires at least one back up and realignment to get into a modern parking space if there is a car parked on either side. From what I have been told, the turning radius was improved as part of the '05's mild re-design. Major ground up re-design is coming in '07. I like the current body and didn't want to wait.
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good location......if your arms are long enough.........

hi canoe steam and others

as my kindred power strokers' have noted, the lever is similar in design to most aftermarket brands. it'd dash location is close to the spot many folks place choose too. for my short arms it's a bit of a reach....sort of a lean from the hips while reaching. of course with the aftermarket units more options for location (like right vs left) but most i've seen are in this general area.

attached is a photo.

during the brake setup phase the lever is used to dial in the "boost".

i too did about 4000 break in miles before towing and have towed 10-12,000 since without readjusting. i try to use the brake lever once each trip....just for assurance that it still grabs. works very quickly and the amount of trailer braking is proportional to how far the lever is moved...like many other systems.....but i do think it's quicker to engage.


my preference (i think) would be to have the manual activation on/under the steering wheel where most other dash functions are located. this would make for quicker/more intuitive application.....as with high beams, wipers, cruise control and so on..... also it would be more obvious if the trailer brake 'malfunction warning light' was in the main idiot cluster....since looking down to the current location isn't a natural process.....

one of the unusual (or odd) features of the tc brake system is that trailer braking effort is speed proportional. at slower speeds less brake is applied...above 40 or so, full power is achieved.

it's also unusual for factory options to be nicer, have better features/design than aftermarket options.....but this system will prompt the others to upgrade their products....and that will be good for all.

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