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Old 08-04-2007, 10:38 AM   #1
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FORD cruise control recall

I know this has been out here before, but instead of burying it in an old thread, I thought I would start fresh.

Lots of models and lots of trucks, go to the FORD web page and see if you're vehicle is in the list. Below is a CNN news artical link.

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Ford recalls vehicles over cruise control - Aug. 3, 2007
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Old 08-04-2007, 11:04 AM   #2
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Though I'm not a Ford fan, I sure hope this doens't put them over the edge. Things are bad all around the domestic camps nowadays, but Ford, unlike GM and Diamler/Chrysler feels the pain easier than the other two, though that is not saying all that much.

This particular recall seems to be an extension of the same issue that they had before, it just seems like they raised the bar and covered more models and model years. It was really the right thing to do and should have been done far sooner IMHO.

You know it's a sad state of affairs when you see a recall like this and wonder if this could be one of the issues that drives them to bankruptcy. 3.6 million vehicles isn't cheap to deal with, let alone the sad state the domestic finds itself in nowadays. You wonder how much red ink one company can endure? Maybe since most of the domestics have simply perception problems, we should all do our part to try to buy domestic whenever possible because IMHO, the builds and QC seem to be pretty darn close, between that of the domestics and foreign....and who knows, maybe the job you save might be your own as a bankrupt domestic nowadays might have more of a ripple effect than it did a few decades ago when Chrysler got bailed out.
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Good grief! All the way back to 1992, in some cases. At least my 2000 F150 is not included. Already been in once for the cruse control.

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Old 08-04-2007, 11:50 AM   #4
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As a fire investigator, we in the business have been aware of the "Ford Cruise control fires" for a number of years. It's a puzzle to me why it remains an issue. They have had other recalls and opportunities to correct the design.
I too hope it doesn't push them over the edge of business. While I'm not a "Ford guy", I wish no ill on the company.
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Old 08-04-2007, 02:33 PM   #5
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It's just a matter of them spreading out the pain. My 95 E150 was not covered for a long time, and I disconnected the cruise control myself to eliminate the known fire risk. Finally just a year or so ago they covered it in the recall. Now they have extended that to cover more vehicles.

If your vehicle isn't covered yet it might not be a bad idea to do a little research and make sure that yours isn't one that SHOULD be covered but isn't yet. It's simple to disconnect the cruise control unit and possibly save yourself from a fire. And these are the worst kind - the fire starts from a wiring short unexpectedly, often while the vehicle is parked and unattended, or it could happen while in use. It is definitly something Ford should have taken care of years ago!
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Old 08-04-2007, 03:14 PM   #6
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thanks for the heads up

called Ford today, they said they know as much as I do. Ford has yet to release official info to them. Usually a specific vin list that they can go by.
He also mentioned I should be receiving a letter directly from ford in the next 3-4 weeks, if not to call back.
In the meantime don't worry.....our cruise control worked great but I guess we should hold off using it again until we are sure...

Since we've owned this tv it has already been back to ford for two other recalls!! tires and a faulty switch. It works fine and tows beautifully but this sort of constant recalls make you worry and think twice about your next purchase.
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Using the cruise control doesn't cause the fire. As I understand it there is a pressure switch on the master cylinder that turns off the cruise control when the brakes are pressed. Stepping on the brakes increases the fluid pressure against a thin diaphragm in the switch. If that diaphragm ruptures, brake fluid will contact the electrical connection in the switch, causing a short, which causes the fire. The wiring in the switch is 'hot' all the time, even when the ignition is off. That is why it can happen even while the car is parked (and it has happened to cars parked in the garage, causing damage to the garage and house as well).
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That's pretty much the way I understand it, too, Steph. All of my cars/trucks are Fords. We had both pick ups repaired last year under the first round of this. I'm betting the Mini-van is on this new list.

If any of you start having strange things happen with your cruise control, check that valve/sensor out straight away. Our '98 Windstar starting having cruise control problems a few years ago and after much searching, we found that sensor leaking brake fluid. It is right where Stephanie describes it on the trucks and the Mini-van; right on the end of the brake master cylinder. It was clearly dripping a small amount of fluid down into the engine compartment. Lucky for us it was replaced before it caused any other problesm. Oh, and it isn't cheap either. The only place I could buy it was at the dealer for about $80.

The fix for the pick ups was to place an inline fuse on the power cable going to the sensor. Quick and inexpensive for Ford.

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You all are right on. Not using it isn't the issue. I read that some guy parked his Ford in his garage, it caught fire while he and his wife were asleep, he woke up and his wife didn't.

Bottom line, if you have one of these vehicles and can't get in for service, it's best to yank the fuse for the cruise control or whatever fuse passes power to that pressure switch.
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Been there -- done that!

This is what can happen. Our truck was sitting in our barn lot and hadnít
been driven for three weeks when it caught fire. The recall notice was in our mail box as the fire trucks were leaving.



Read all the details in our post #42 on the previous thread about the defective cruise-control switch recall here.

Our insurance company paid us and planned to subrogate the claim to Ford.
We have since replaced the destroyed TV with another Ford Ė go figure! Even though our 2003 F250 isnít in the list of currently-recalled units, we plan to have the cruise-control disconnected since we never use it and do not plan to.
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Yeah, I eliminated the problem by disconnecting the wiring harness from that switch on the master cylinder. This eliminates the possibility of a short, as it takes the hot wire away. It also kills the cruise control, but we seldom used it anyway.

Still, I would feel better if my truck was made by a company that felt this was an important enough flaw to jump on it and make sure vehicles were safe, not put it off for ten years before offering a fix!
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Yeah, I eliminated the problem by disconnecting the wiring harness from that switch on the master cylinder. This eliminates the possibility of a short, as it takes the hot wire away. It also kills the cruise control, but we seldom used it anyway.

Still, I would feel better if my truck was made by a company that felt this was an important enough flaw to jump on it and make sure vehicles were safe, not put it off for ten years before offering a fix!
A simple phrase will be their answer to your request - "bean counters".
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A simple phrase will be their answer to your request - "bean counters".
That's how it's done, as wrong as it is.....

Rex, I hope that both you, your family and any animals you have were not harmed in this blaze!
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That's how it's done, as wrong as it is.....

Rex, I hope that both you, your family and any animals you have were not harmed in this blaze!
We were fortunate that the fire occurred during the daytime and we took quick action to prevent collateral damage to the A/S and nearby barn.

Others were not so lucky as there have been fatalities when the fires happened to vehicles in garages attached to homes.
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