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Old 06-16-2005, 09:05 PM   #1
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Ford Cruise Control Recall

Did anyone else see this

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Apparently they have recalled some but not all of the vehicles with this same switch design. My '95 E150 has the same switch, with a hot wire even with the key out. It's no guarentee that it will burst into flames, but I'm not comfortable with it sitting parked next to the trailer (or towing it down the road like that), so I disconnected it until they can convince me otherwise. Not like I'll miss having cruise control, I never use it.

Still, it's shameful that Ford would have a known problem and not promptly recall all the vehicles with the same switch, instead picking and choosing, and letting other vehicles catch fire and deny responsibility.
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Old 06-16-2005, 09:11 PM   #3
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Dang, youre fast! I put the message up with test in it to begin with because I was having trouble starting a post. It finally worked! So I guess you pass
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Those darn fords

I checked and no I don't have a Ford F-150 I have a 1999 Ford F-250 but the Ford Recall never affected my truck apparently. I am a happy camper and working on my airstream is my latest job, (although I do go to a regular job 40 hours on any airstream week)....isn't time really related to airstream weeks? I find that so many people on this site have so darn, (not the real expletive I had in mind), much time to play they don't really talk about too much else other than airstreams so I figure any time I have is really airstream time. I also wish there was more technical advice on some issues here.
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Ask away, and any technical questions you have will probably be addressed.

Keep in mind that even if the recall didn't effect you, your truck probably has the same switch as those that have been recalled. That's the part that makes me so mad - now you have to figure out if it's a hazard or not and if you want to do something about it, or wait for a future recall to apply to you.
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The recall was mostly limited to 2000 & 2001 Expeditions and some SuperCrews. I know, our Expy was one of them.

The problem isn't so much the switch itself as a harness connector outside the firewall. IIRC, it is possible for brake fluid to drip from the master cylinder onto the improperly sealed connector, thus corroding the contacts and potentially shorting it out, thus potentially starting a spontaneous fire.
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Actually, there is another major Ford recall coming down the pipe. It will involve 03, 04 and 05 SuperDuties with the 6.0 Diesel engine.
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As I understand it's the connector on top of the switch, or the switch itself located at the front end of the master cylinder, which shorts and fries. Here's another discussion about it on an F150 forum:

Ford Cruise Control Switch Recall
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Pork, you gotta give us a cookie here... I mean to post that and run.....

As for what you said Steph about how it's bad that they have a known issue and don't address it.....you can thank the bean counters for that. All auto makers do it (though I would have liked to have said it's just a Ford thing) according to one of my buddies that works out in auto city....so take this at face value.

I'm told when an issue is found, the bean counters weigh what it would cost to fix it vs. any or the worst possible lawsuit costs they could be hit for if this became an issue. Sometimes the bean counters are right and other times not as right. Take GMs "outside" the frame box gas tank on the truck line. At any rate as long as it's cheaper to get sued and pay a sum less than what it would take to fix an issue then the issue stays as is, unless NHTSA (or whatever it's letters are) forces them to recall.
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I'm told when an issue is found, the bean counters weigh what it would cost to fix it vs. any or the worst possible lawsuit costs they could be hit for if this became an issue. Sometimes the bean counters are right and other times not as right. Take GMs "outside" the frame box gas tank on the truck line. At any rate as long as it's cheaper to get sued and pay a sum less than what it would take to fix an issue then the issue stays as is, unless NHTSA (or whatever it's letters are) forces them to recall.
Sad but true...
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I'm told when an issue is found, the bean counters weigh what it would cost to fix it vs. any or the worst possible lawsuit costs they could be hit for if this became an issue. Sometimes the bean counters are right and other times not as right. Take GMs "outside" the frame box gas tank on the truck line. At any rate as long as it's cheaper to get sued and pay a sum less than what it would take to fix an issue then the issue stays as is, unless NHTSA (or whatever it's letters are) forces them to recall.
Remember the Pinto, and its exploding gas tank??? Same thing.
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"It is a matter of more than public record, a matter of MILLIONS and MILLIONS of Chilton manuals, Haynes manuals, Ford service manuals, etc., that "reveal" Ford has been using a brake fluid pressure triggered cruise control shut off. Thousands of service techicians across the U.S., Canada, and Mexico know the extent to which this style switch is used.

This has not been done in some dark corner. Ford has used this switch with little to no problem for twelve years. Furthermore, I would like to see some record of how many cruise control shut-offs from GM, DCX, etc., have failed, leading to unexpected acceleration when the brakes are released."

I stumbled across the above response comment after reading the CNN article that Stephanie brought to our attention. With their advanced engineering I feel confident that $$ & politics allowed the part to make it into production.

Although, 559 complaints out of 16,000,000 (sixteen million) - well ...
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Still, it's shameful that Ford would have a known problem and not promptly recall all the vehicles with the same switch, instead picking and choosing, and letting other vehicles catch fire and deny responsibility.
Normal mode of operatation. Ford at one time stated "Its cheaper for us to pay the lawsuits then repair the problem".

That was about the pinto.
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59toaster,

A very accurate statement, although don't even begin to infer that Ford is the only culprit in compromise of safety for profit. All the high volume manufacturers of consumer products are the same. Even the toy makers.

Although, since I happen to be closer to Ford information I will offer you an article about the Pinto. As follows:

http://www.fortune.com/fortune/fortu...184-14,00.html
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