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Old 06-19-2005, 11:29 PM   #15
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I think my dissapointment is not only in Ford (and other companies that do the same) but even more in our government agencies that are supposed to protect consumers and let the companies get away with making these deals. I am not one of those people who thinks the government should fix everything for us, but this is one area where they can provide a real service, and I think they bargan and make deals to protect companies, protect jobs, and sell out the consumers in the process.
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Old 06-20-2005, 03:06 AM   #16
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Do you think this would apply to my 1995 ? With the front disk rotors that are too thin to keep from warping ?
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Old 06-20-2005, 06:41 AM   #17
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Rotor warp ...

C Johnson,

A very common problem. You have to go a loooong way to find a dealer that will get approval to re-fit new brakes under the original or ESP extended warranty.

I've owned 4 Excursions & one F-250 since 2000 ... each one had this rotor warp problem.

The one possible correction I have heard of is to utilize the proper tightening sequence and insure that each lug is brought up tight then sequenced to 165 ft pounds of torque.

As you are aware, most tire stores do not even think of a tightening sequence. Just a pit stop for them.

Don't know if this will help, but I suppose its worth a try.

Otherwise when you go for replacements you may want to go the Cryogenic route. See: http://www.frozenrotors.com/

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Do you think this would apply to my 1995 ? With the front disk rotors that are too thin to keep from warping ?
It may apply to your 1995, but don't expect any recall notices for it, you will most likely have to get it taken care of yourself.
The warped front rotor problem has been around for a very long time. That, and the rotor wear problem have been covered on other threads pretty extensively, but the Reader's Digest version is: Ford used smaller rotors than they should have, made from cheaper, softer steel in them, to make the rotors lighter and cheaper.
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Old 06-20-2005, 10:02 AM   #19
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I hadn't heard about the rotor problem. The rotors on my 95 Mustang warped at 60k, and the 95 E150 is starting to show signs of it also. Good job there, Ford...
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Have you driven a Ford.......lately!

Ashes to ashes, dust to dust, if it weren't for my Ford, my tools would rust.

In all seriousness, every vehicle has some issues from all manufacs, it's just that I can't pass up a good Ford hit when the opp presents itself.

GM had the Corvair and the side saddle gas tanks...Ford had the Pinto, the Firestone issue that was never really fully understood how the Explorer, above all others had higher failure rates, this brake issue....while I'm not even gonna get into the Dodge cause I don't consider them a domestic anymore, let alone a real competitor to GM and Ford (kind of like the Ralph Nader in political circles), particularly in the transmission department. Folks know how I feel about Fords, but I'd buy a Ford before a Dodge....sorry Mopar fans, the 60s are over.
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Have you driven a Ford.......lately! GM had the Corvair and the side saddle gas tanks...Ford had the Pinto, the Firestone issue that was never really fully understood how the Explorer, above all others had higher failure rates,
The Reader's Digest version of this, is:
Ford took a Ranger, loaded it to its GVWR, jacked it 6" in the air, and deflated the tires to the point where it will be almost certain to sway, and the tire sidewalls to flex, generating excess heat, and then blamed the tires for blowing out when they were stressed beyond their design tolerances.
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Old 09-07-2005, 12:16 PM   #22
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Well Stephanie (post #1) here it is:

September 7, 2005; Posted: 1:09 p.m. EDT (1709 GMT)
NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Ford Motor Co. is recalling about 3.8 million trucks and SUVs to fix a cruise control switch that could overheat and burn even when the vehicles are not running.

Click HERE for the article.
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Actually, there is another major Ford recall coming down the pipe. It will involve 03, 04 and 05 SuperDuties with the 6.0 Diesel engine.
A member of our WBCCI unit is on his THIRD 6.0 diesel engined truck. All due to oil leaking issues that have not been able to be solved by Ford. They even did a new shortblock.......
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sorry Mopar fans, the 60s are over.
Yeah, but wouldn't it be cool if the big three got their heads out of their fourth point of contact and created a "classic division"....rebuild the musclecars of the 60's and 70's? I'd buy a 440 six-pack Cuda convertible

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Exclamation The chatter begins again ...

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Well Stephanie (post #1) here it is:

September 7, 2005; Posted: 1:09 p.m. EDT (1709 GMT)
NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Ford Motor Co. is recalling about 3.8 million trucks and SUVs to fix a cruise control switch that could overheat and burn even when the vehicles are not running.

Click HERE for the article.
Well, the chatter begins again on the news .... Apparently they discuss it once each year.

You can find the following HERE. The ODI !
Search for your own vehicle. Ford is not the only manufacturer with build problems!

Make / Models : Model/Build Years: FORD / E450 1996-2002
FORD / ECONOLINE 1994-1996
FORD / EXCURSION 2000-2002
FORD / EXPLORER 1998
FORD / F250 1994-2002
FORD / F350 1994-2002
FORD / F450 1994-2002
FORD / F550 1994-2002
FORD / MOUNTAINEER 1998
Manufacturer : FORD MOTOR COMPANY NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number : 06V286000 Mfg's Report Date : JUL 27, 2006Component: VEHICLE SPEED CONTROLPotential Number Of Units Affected : 1200000Summary:
ON CERTAIN TRUCKS EQUIPPED WITH SPEED CONTROL, GASOLINE OR NATURAL GAS ENGINES, THE SPEED CONTROL DEACTIVATION SWITCH MAY OVERHEAT.Consequence:
OVERHEAT COULD RESULT IN SMOKE, OR BURN AND IN AN UNDERHOOD FIRE.Remedy:
DEALERS WILL INSTALL A FUSED WIRING HARNESS INTO THE SPEED CONTROL SYSTEM FREE OF CHARGE. THE RECALL IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN ON AUGUST 7, 2006. OWNERS MAY CONTACT FORD AT 1-866-436-7332.Notes:
FORD RECALL NO. 05S28. CUSTOMERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATIONíS VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV.
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Well, finally!

Of course, I disconnected mine a long time ago, and since we don't tow with cruise control, we don't really miss it. My husband said he'd rather leave it disconnected than let those %^&*@ get their hands on our van (he's convinced that when you go in for recall work, they'll break something else while it's there to run up a bill - paranoid or cautious, you decide)! Well, maybe we'll get that fixed later. First I need to go get our warped rotors taken care of...
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Actually, there is another major Ford recall coming down the pipe. It will involve 03, 04 and 05 SuperDuties with the 6.0 Diesel engine.
Porky,

Is this a fact? Tell me more. My 05 6.0 powered Super Duty has been trouble free.
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Not Diesels

I read where the cruise control recall does not include DIESEL models. I will have to track down the website where I got this but it was an official Ford site. I have no idea about a 6.0 recall - I have the 7.3L.
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