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Old 09-11-2019, 04:42 PM   #15
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If truck GVWR ia 7000 lb and you are at 6940 before you get in the truck, you will probably be over the GVWR by about 100 lb once you get in.

I think your weight distribution is going to be OK once you are in the truck.

Move some stuff from the bed of the truck to the trailer or just leave it home to get your truck weight under its GVWR.
Yep; I think that is the best thing since I have about 600 lb capacity in the trailer weight. I have a number of things in the truck that could easily be moved to the trailer.
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Old 09-11-2019, 04:44 PM   #16
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Dew how about the weights for just the truck? Also check your owner's manual or trailer guide for how much to restore to the front axle. A blanket statement of restoring to the unloaded truck weight is not correct. Example my last GM/GMC says 50%. Others are 100%. Get the facts for your particular truck.
Good point. IIRC I read the instructions about doing the height measurement of the front fender from Ford, and they basically said to bring it back to where it is without the trailer hitched so that would imply 100%. But I will check. Thanks!
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Dew how about the weights for just the truck? Also check your owner's manual or trailer guide for how much to restore to the front axle. A blanket statement of restoring to the unloaded truck weight is not correct. Example my last GM/GMC says 50%. Others are 100%. Get the facts for your particular truck.
I'm wondering if this 50% weight return to the front axle is typical with diesel engines, where the engine/transmission is already heavy on the front axle.
I've never seen this on the 1/2 ton or 3/4 ton GM/Chev trucks I've owned, all with gas engines.
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I'm wondering if this 50% weight return to the front axle is typical with diesel engines, where the engine/transmission is already heavy on the front axle.
I've never seen this on the 1/2 ton or 3/4 ton GM/Chev trucks I've owned, all with gas engines.
RAM calls for 50% FALR on their 2500 and 3500, but only 33% FALR on their 1500. Might be a limitation of the strength of the stock receiver.
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Don't forget the old rule of thumb: 1/3 of the TT tongue weight on the steer wheels, 1/3 on the drive wheels and 1/3 on the TT wheels. That has always worked for me.
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Don't forget the old rule of thumb: 1/3 of the TT tongue weight on the steer wheels, 1/3 on the drive wheels and 1/3 on the TT wheels. That has always worked for me.
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How does the even 1/3, 1/3, 1/3 work if you have a heavier trailer rather than a trailer that closely matches the TV? It seems that transferring very much weight to the steer axle is an issue. Thanks
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Old 09-18-2019, 09:49 AM   #21
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Since you have what you have, I would not go shopping for another truck. I also would not load up the trailer with a whole bunch of stuff from the truck either. Get aggressive about leaving stuff at home !!!

A reasonable target would be to get the axle weights down to 80% of the max ratings. Like pretty much everything else mentioned it's just a rule of thumb. The idea is that you then have some "room" if you load things a bit differently on this or that trip.

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If anyone was in doubt about whether to get a 1500 or 2500, this should clear it up.
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Before I get into it, want to know if TT has 1 or 2 axles?
I assume 2 so tandem-axle, then most weight is distributed to front of TV with WDH engaged.

And what is the GAWR of each axle?

Front still has 200 lbs left, and you , even if 250 lbs weighing, on the driversseat only give about 150 lbs max on frontseat, because your gravitypoint i( about at your belly button) is placed almost in the middle between front and rear axle.

About the differences in total weight , it could just be because of inacuracy. Even a calibrated scale is allowed 1 step ( think here 20 lbs) off, and becsuse rounding to nearest step, it can mean 30 lbs different from real weight per weighing unit.
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Two words - Haul Guage. Check it out. It costs about $100 and plugs into your diagnostic port and the app on your phone gives you the wight of your truck loaded, unloaded, each axle weight, the weight of your wd set up with the axle wt of your front and rear axle and the weight of your trailer axles. Problem with CAT scales is that your wts constantly change. With this device, it gives you real-time measurements that are dynamic and, in my opinion, using this device - right on. An added plus is that you can plug it into other vehicles to check their wts as well. My friend has a Bambi and he didn't believe the tongue wt it was showing so we had him sit on his Explorer with the tailgate up and it showed his additional wt exactly. Made him a believer and changed his perspective on the weight distribution on that trailer. Nothing wrong with CAT scales, you can use them as a back up to this device but you can't have those scales after loading your tanks and putting additional gear in the back of your truck each and every time you adapt to changing circumstances. I don't sell them, only bought one and used it and my experience was a very good one. Yours might be different. Check it out in any event and evaluate it yourself.
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If a calibrated scale is "not accurate enough" the low bidder sensors in your truck are *not* going to be the better answer ..... They most certainly are not designed for a high level of accuracy.

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Two words - Haul Guage. Check it out. It costs about $100 and plugs into your diagnostic port and the app on your phone gives you the wight of your truck loaded, unloaded, each axle weight, the weight of your wd set up with the axle wt of your front and rear axle and the weight of your trailer axles. Problem with CAT scales is that your wts constantly change. With this device, it gives you real-time measurements that are dynamic and, in my opinion, using this device - right on. An added plus is that you can plug it into other vehicles to check their wts as well. My friend has a Bambi and he didn't believe the tongue wt it was showing so we had him sit on his Explorer with the tailgate up and it showed his additional wt exactly. Made him a believer and changed his perspective on the weight distribution on that trailer. Nothing wrong with CAT scales, you can use them as a back up to this device but you can't have those scales after loading your tanks and putting additional gear in the back of your truck each and every time you adapt to changing circumstances. I don't sell them, only bought one and used it and my experience was a very good one. Yours might be different. Check it out in any event and evaluate it yourself.
Great info, thanks
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Since you have what you have, I would not go shopping for another truck. I also would not load up the trailer with a whole bunch of stuff from the truck either. Get aggressive about leaving stuff at home !!!

A reasonable target would be to get the axle weights down to 80% of the max ratings. Like pretty much everything else mentioned it's just a rule of thumb. The idea is that you then have some "room" if you load things a bit differently on this or that trip.

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Yep; I'm too cheap to buy another truck now and since we have a fair amount of headroom with trailer weight I can move a few things (and leave a few things!). So far I hadn't made any effort at all so with not too much I can get this sorted, but I am eyeing those "moved to an F250" threads with some envy.... :-)

To answer the other question, it is a dual-axle trailer.
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If anyone was in doubt about whether to get a 1500 or 2500, this should clear it up.
Yes; that was part of the reason I posted this was so I could refer to it when people ask if an F150 is sufficient. It is, but it requires some thought about how one loads and what one brings.
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