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Old 04-11-2015, 09:32 AM   #1
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First tow with new (to us) TV

After three hours in the driveway adjusting and re-adjusting the hitch for the new truck and Class V hitch we finally got off on our first trip with the new TV. It's a 2013 Ram 2500 with the Cummins Turbodiesel. All I can say is Wow! Put it in Tow/Haul mode and just go. Effortless cruising at about 1700 rpm at 65 mph (coincidentally the peak of the torque curve) and getting about 15 mpg (estimated) when the F150 was getting around 9 (on the flat). For sure we won't be worrying about getting up the next hill when we head to NC later this summer.

The built-in brake controller works well. I haven't yet noticed the tendency for the left front trailer brake to lock that I had with the P3. Noticed the TV downshift a couple of times to help with braking.

Ventilated seats are really nice in the Florida heat. Actually had to turn them down and then off because they were getting uncomfortably cool.

Was able to get a 3-month trial of the Sirius/XM system, including the TraveLink. Nice having fuel prices right on the Nav screen, push a button and get directions to the station with the best prices. The weather radar is a nice feature too.

I know I'll probably end up paying more in life-cycle cost, but this is probably going to be my last truck and the peace of mind is worth it.

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Congrats on the new tow vehicle. That diesel power is amazing.

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Welcome to the world of 3/4-ton Diesel towing! Isn't it just the bee's knees??

I am also impressed that you chose the Class V receiver. I had one of those before I had a custom rear bumper made with a receiver built in. Made sense to me to have a super-strong receiver...... doesn't cost much more at all, then you don't have to ever wonder about your receiver!
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You have a reliable vehicle that can do a lot of work. The Ram - Cummins is very efficient as well as powerful.

I have a class V receiver on my 6.7l diesel Ford. I was surprised to learn that it only wants about 1200 pounds tongue weight, and about half of that if you use a reducer sleeve. My PP hitch has a 2" stringer and I use the reducer sleeve.

I had a bunch of radial slop in my hitch set up. I could grab my rock tammer mud flap bars and rotate the PP hitch about 15 degrees in both clockwise and counter clockwise. The result was a bent hitch pin. That is not suppose to happen!

I ended up welding my reducer sleeve to the ProPride drawbar to reduce the slop in the receiver. Now there is no torsional load on the hitch pin. The hitch pin is free when there is a torsional load on the hitch.

You will have a sticker on your cat V receiver that talks to max tongue weights. I was surprised how low it was. Some guys have upgraded to a Curt receiver.

Glad you like your Cummins. Nice, nice vehicle.

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Old 04-11-2015, 08:00 PM   #5
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David,
Thanks for the information. I was crawling around under the truck putting an outside antenna on for my Dill TPMS. I looked for a label on the receiver, but didn't see one. I'll look more carefully when I get home. I'd be surprised if it is only 1000# just based on how beefy it is, but stranger things have happened.

I bought a reducer but, like you, found that there was slop between the reducer and the receiver and between the shank and the reducer. I thought about welding the reducer to the receiver, but I decided to get a Class V shank instead. That setup is pretty solid.

I'll use the reducer when I tow my boat or utility trailer (both around 1000# GVW) but didn't like all the slop for towing the Airstream.

I didn't realize I needed a different pin, either. I went to hook up and my locking pin was too short to go through the Class V receiver. Luckily a local auto parts place had one in stock.

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I bought my truck used and it already had the Class V receiver on it. The Class V shank for the Equal-i-zer must weigh 10 or 15 pounds more than the Class IV. I get a workout every time I hook up. I got a lot of exercise putting it on and pulling it twice to get adjusted to put the front end back to where it needed to be.

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The Class V receiver I had was a Curt, as is the weight distribution system that I still have. Very nicely built, and definitely no slop.
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Congratulations Al--sounds like a great rig! There's no such thing as overkill where safety is involved. As we move on through life, might as well enjoy it!
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I bought my truck used and it already had the Class V receiver on it. The Class V shank for the Equal-i-zer must weigh 10 or 15 pounds more than the Class IV. I get a workout every time I hook up. I got a lot of exercise putting it on and pulling it twice to get adjusted to put the front end back to where it needed to be. Al
I feel your pain! When I had my bumper made, the guy knew he wanted the receiver to be a snug fit. When I showed up to check it out with the hitch, it was real tough to get the hitch slid in to the new receiver. He had to round off the corners of the Curt shank slightly to make it fit. Definitely no wiggle room!
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After pulling our 27ft FB with our Cayenne for the past year, we just purchased a 2012 2500 Ram Laramie with the same motor; it pulls our 27ft like a Clydesdale pulling a baby bugy...bring on those 12% grades...you got the torque to climb a wall if you could find sticky enough tires.
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After pulling our 27ft FB with our Cayenne for the past year, we just purchased a 2012 2500 Ram Laramie with the same motor; it pulls our 27ft like a Clydesdale pulling a baby bugy...bring on those 12% grades...you got the torque to climb a wall if you could find sticky enough tires.
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Congrats to you, too!!

Another enlightened convert! (Doesn't diesel smell good?!?!)
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We cut off the factory receiver on our 2012 Dodge 2500HD Cummins and installed the Curt 15049 rated for 2,550 pounds tongue weight and a 17,000 pound trailer. Those numbers more than cover all models of Airstream I have seen or heard about.
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You have a reliable vehicle that can do a lot of work. The Ram - Cummins is very efficient as well as powerful.

I have a class V receiver on my 6.7l diesel Ford. I was surprised to learn that it only wants about 1200 pounds tongue weight, and about half of that if you use a reducer sleeve. My PP hitch has a 2" stringer and I use the reducer sleeve.

I had a bunch of radial slop in my hitch set up. I could grab my rock tammer mud flap bars and rotate the PP hitch about 15 degrees in both clockwise and counter clockwise. The result was a bent hitch pin. That is not suppose to happen!

I ended up welding my reducer sleeve to the ProPride drawbar to reduce the slop in the receiver. Now there is no torsional load on the hitch pin. The hitch pin is free when there is a torsional load on the hitch.

You will have a sticker on your cat V receiver that talks to max tongue weights. I was surprised how low it was. Some guys have upgraded to a Curt receiver.

Glad you like your Cummins. Nice, nice vehicle.

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I had the same trouble with slop/play where the shank goes into the receiver. It was noisy and made the trailer wiggle more while towing. I bought an "anti-rattle" device, essentially a u-bolt with a flat steel bottom. The anti-rattle device took away the slop, wiggle, noise, and made the trailer tow better.
Before, I could grab my Rock Tamers and the would wobble all around. Now, they are solidly in place and do not move. Before, I could hear the hitch head/Rock Tamers jumping when I hit a bump. Now, everything is silent.
I have a 1/2 ton truck, 2" Class IV hitch, and an Equal-i-zer hitch head, but the principle will still work with your 3/4 ton truck, 2.5" Class V receiver, and Pro-Pride stinger.
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My class V receiver was so sloppy that the hitch pin was taking the torsional load. It actually elongated the holes in the receiver, and it bent the hitch pin. The square receiver and draw bar should not be so sloppy that the hitch pin stops the rotation. I welded my reducer sleeve to my propride draw bar and the slop was greatly reduced.

I find the Curt products seem well built. Reese better look out!

I wonder if Al found a tongue weight label on his class V receiver under his new Ram?

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