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Old 12-06-2013, 08:41 AM   #43
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Andrew,
That's quite a recommendation on the 300.

Q: Did you mount an extra transmission cooler?
Qid you have to fabricate the hitch, or is it a off the shelf Class IV?


I am really keen on buying one. Any additional info on the hitch would be great. Right now, I am having trouble convincing the wife that this will tow the trailer. She seems stunned that a lowly sedan would tow anything, let alone our baby. I guess I did a good job two years ago selling her the Suburban!

I did find one sore spot on the 300 design. The visibility is poor. And yes, that goofy shifter is just ridiculous and has no obvious functional advantage from what I can tell.

Thanks for commenting in this thread. I am going to have my wife read it first thing this morning!

If I can manage to pull this off and get rid of the 'Burb I will feel like I have entered the Tech Era in towing.
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Old 12-06-2013, 02:38 PM   #44
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We use a 2012 Ram Hemi 1500 for the Airstream, a VW Jetta TDI when home for trips, a Suzuki Samaria for zipping about our little town. All work very well but looking to have one less vehicle and have an eye on the Dodge Durango.

Am impressed with Andrew T's report on the Chrysler 300 3.6 V6 eight speed transmission, but I think we need more interior space. The 2014 Durango has this engine/transmission standard rated to tow 6200#, 1200# less than the V8. The V6 and V8 use different transmissions, both ZF eight speeds. Otherwise they seem to share the same chassis. Both are available with the same 20" wheels/tires.

The 6200# tow rating is close to our traveling Airstream, so I have thought I needed the V8. Now I'm wondering if the V6 would do nearly as well in the heavier, less aerodynamic Durango as in the Chrysler 300?

Also have considered the new Jeep GC diesel, but looks like the $4500 diesel option and probable higher maintenance costs would erase any fuel savings; the only advantage would be high torque at low rpm when going up steep grades.

Anyone pulling an Airstream with one of these new 8 speed V6 SUV's have a report?
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Old 12-06-2013, 03:11 PM   #45
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If I can manage to pull this off and get rid of the 'Burb I will feel like I have entered the Tech Era in towing.
Burb

About 15 years ago we got the idea to get back into RVing and thought about a TV. My first thought was to buy an older Burb and go to work on it. Marine cam, headers, rims, tires, gear set, suspension kit, performance brake kit etc, etc. Then I thought about the time and cost to put the project together and did a quick back step. Soon after that my first visit to Can Am shed new light on the TV thing.

Decided to simply set up our Nissan Mini van as a TV and in the end it was so much the right decision. Great ride, reliable, and compared to a Burb great fuel economy which is important when living in Canada.
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Old 12-06-2013, 09:03 PM   #46
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I hunted and hunted and looked and looked and then I found it. A gorgeous 2012 Chrysler 300 S model, with everything, and in "like new" condition. I believe the word is "cream puff." I bought it and will pick it up Saturday am.

It has the V6 and 8-Speed with paddle shifters - an almost impossible find! It has 265/45/20 tires, and it just drives like a dream. I was amazed at how quite those low profile 20s were. Much quieter than the plain 300 I drove with 18" tires. On top of all the mechanical goodies it has Garman Nav with a beautiful 8" screen, and some kind of massive stereo (which I don't care about, but maybe the wife will like it). Power seats on both sides, memory seats, and very nicely stitched black leather. It has 32,000 miles.

I just can't wait to get a hitch on this thing and see how it tows. I have really high expectations.

As for roominess, sure, it will be a little tighter than the 'Burb, But, we are only two adults and a small dog. The trunk is very large and as a bonus the rear seat backs fold almost flat down. I think we will be fine on space, but it will take a little more care in packing.

Andy, if you are still reading, I may prevail on you to just suggest a proper brand of receiver and any hints you might pass on about welding the receiver. It might be time for me to change hitch to the EazLift.
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Old 12-07-2013, 01:37 AM   #47
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I just sold my EazLift...
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Congratulations mstephens.

Will look forward to hearing about your 1st towing report. We were lucky when we bought our Infiniti. Mr. T had it hooked up and towing in a very short time. The modern V6's have so much power. I still get giddy thinking of the first drive with the Airstream in tow.
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Old 12-07-2013, 07:39 AM   #49
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Congratulations mstephens.

Will look forward to hearing about your 1st towing report. We were lucky when we bought our Infiniti. Mr. T had it hooked up and towing in a very short time. The modern V6's have so much power. I still get giddy thinking of the first drive with the Airstream in tow.
I am going to try to have it ready for our Christmas trip to Death Valley. But, finding really good hitch guys is not easy.

My wife is still highly skeptical. "That thing can tow our trailer?" I do feel a bit like I have stepped out on a limb. I just hope I don't hear the sound of a chain saw behind me!

I pick it up this morning and begin the search for a hitch setup. Which model of Infinity do you have? In 1991 I owned a Q45 and really like it a lot. The wife (not this one) rear ended a Buick on the freeway, and totaled the Buick. Crumpled it up. The Q45 did not have a scratch - not kidding. The insurance guy couldn't believe it zero damage to car or wife!
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I just can't believe that I'd have enough room for all my crap stuff in such a vehicle. My particular trailer has no externally accessible storage for all those dirty hoses, cords, etc, so everything needs to go in the tv. not to mention patio chairs, bikes, a grill, and so forth.
Another issue I have is a long, long driveway that I need to snow-plow in the winter. So I've always been "stuck" on the idea of a 4wd truck of some sort...need a vehicle that can be a mom-mobile, pull the trailer, and plow the driveway--limiting.
W has decreed that the next vehicle shall not be a pick-em-up. She hates being stuck with the present beast (we have an efficient commuter-car, too, but I'm the one that commutes. so I take the high mpg car to work; she is stuck w/ the pig).
I finally decided to think a little more outside the box, and go with a 2-vehicle solution: bought an old (but very serviceable) jeep wrangler to plow the driveway. (this is actually my "fantasy" plow vehicle--super-maneuverable, which was a big complaint I had w/ my loooong wheelbase pickup.). Even with the added costs of a 3rd vehicle, this is still going to be a cheaper solution than a full sized suv.
We haven't decided exactly what the next tug will be, but right now, its looking like we're going to go mini-van.
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Because you didn't like it? Or? Tell me about it! I am only considering it because of the round bars.
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mstephens, Just wondering here.....did you test drive the Chrysler with 8 people in it to see how it rode, handled, and stopped?

That would be the equivalent load to the tongue weight or your trailer, plus the hitch, plus you and your wife, and not even considering towing the trailer.
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Weights and Capacities

MAXIMUM TOWING CAPACITY** 1000 lbs. EPA INTERIOR VOLUME 122.6 cu.ft. GROSS WEIGHT 5100 lbs. DRAG COEFFICIENT 0.32 Cd CURB WEIGHT 3999 lbs. CARGO CAPACITY, ALL SEATS IN PLACE 16.3 cu.ft. ** When adequately equipped, which may require engine and/or other drivetrain upgrades.

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DRIVE TYPE Rear wheel drive TRANSMISSION 8-speed shiftable automatic
Engine & Performance

BASE ENGINE SIZE 3.6 L CAM TYPE Double overhead cam (DOHC) CYLINDERS V6 VALVES 24 VALVE TIMING Variable TORQUE 260 ft-lbs. @ 4800 rpm HORSEPOWER 292 hp @ 6350 rpm TURNING CIRCLE 38.9 ft




Let's see here....3999 curb weight + tongue weight of 850 + hitch weight 100 + 2 passengers (@ 150lbs) 300 = 5250, or 150 pounds over gross weight before adding fuel and a screw driver, and a pair of pliers.

Good luck, and I hope it works out for you.
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Congrats mstephens! Sounds like you picked out a sweet TV. Finding a good hitch shop isn't easy. Hopefully Andy T. can provide some guidance for whomever you end up using. You might ask if he'd consider shipping you the custom parts needed to help take the guess work out of it.
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Minus 300 pounds weight distribution to Airstream.
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Minus 300 pounds weight distribution to Airstream.
Maybe 250 best case. Would still be way to close for my comfort.
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