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07-01-2009, 02:23 PM
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Worldturners
1976 31' Sovereign
San Antonio
, Texas
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 47
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Family Car to Pull 31' AS
I'm hitting craigslist and ebay for a TV. Right now we do not have one, and we will need to move our AS soon. We're planning to sell our two current vehicles.
Having the typical female attention span for all things mechanical , could anyone spell it out to me in easy, plain English: are there any family vehicles out there - modern or classic - that could pull (without damage to either) our 31' Sovereign?
We need a vehicle that seats five. We're trying to pass up the hopelessly ugly 20-year-old rusted, cracked trucks (don't want to shame the Airstream name) and the over-the-top insanely expensive new trucks . Is there an all-purpose vehicle out there?
- Natasha
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Terry & Natasha Turner
'76, 31' Sovereign International Land Yacht
Remodel Madness
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07-01-2009, 02:30 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2008 28' Safari SE
winter garden
, Florida
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 210
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I saw a guy towing a 30' two weeks ago with a mid 70's cutlass and said he had no problems, however I would not do it. Since your AS will outweigh most cars I would not do it. I am sure some will say any large car or van will do but I prefer my f250. You may look for a ford f series with a crew cab as that will seat 5, i know here in florida dealers still have 08's that are really discounted. Mine had a sticker of 46,000+ but was discounted to 33,000.
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07-01-2009, 02:31 PM
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Rivet Master
2004 30' Classic Slideout
2021 33FB Classic
Colleyville
, TX
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,540
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An Airstream buddy of ours pulls his '76 31 footer with a Chevy Suburban and it does well on the flats but bogs down a bit in the mountains. Plenty of room for gear and kiddos with the Burb. No doubt you'll get a load more information soon on this Forum. Good luck with your decision.
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07-01-2009, 02:38 PM
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Rivet Master
1979 23' Safari
1954 29' Liner
Orange
, California
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,850
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In 1976 the tow vehicle of choice would have been a full size car from any one of the manufacturers, Ford, Chevrolet, Mercury, Buick, Pontiac, Oldsmobile, Lincoln, Cadillac, Dodge or Chrysler. There are a few members of this forum who still use a 1970's full size car with a large engine.
Bill
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Just my personal opinion
1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon, 1977 Lincoln Continental, 2014 Dodge Durango
1979 23' Safari, and 1954 29' Double Door Liner Orange, CA
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07-01-2009, 02:47 PM
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Rivet Master
1993 34' Limited
Melbourne Florida
, Springfield Ohio
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 759
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A Ford Excursion or Expedition with a v10 or diesel (if you can find one) would do nicely. Probably can get a good deal.
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07-01-2009, 03:35 PM
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Just an old timer...
2004 22' Interstate
Tipton
, Iowa
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 4,766
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Depending on your needs, a full size van with a 10k towing capacity, and Excursion, Expedition, or Suburban would all work nicely. You'll find prices on used, low-mileage Club Wagon style vans particularly appealing when compared to SUV prices; although there are some attractively priced SUVs out there right now as well. Whatever you find, the largest engine you can get, low rear end ratio (except maybe in the Excursions where the 3.73 is adequate with the V10) and factory tow package with the 10k lb tow rating is what you'll want to look for.
Happy hunting!
Roger
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AIR 2053 Current: 2004 Airstream Interstate "B-Van" T1N DODGE Sprinter
Former Airstreams: 1953 Flying Cloud, 1957 Overlander, 1961 Bambi, 1970 Safari Special, 1978 Argosy Minuet, 1985 325 Moho, 1994 Limited 34' Two-door, 1994 B190 "B-Van"
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07-01-2009, 03:41 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Vintage Kin Owner
Virginia Beach
, Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 7,801
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Burb's rule
Quote:
Originally Posted by 85MH325
Depending on your needs, a full size van with a 10k towing capacity, and Excursion, Expedition, or Suburban would all work nicely. You'll find prices on used, low-mileage Club Wagon style vans particularly appealing when compared to SUV prices; although there are some attractively priced SUVs out there right now as well. Whatever you find, the largest engine you can get, low rear end ratio (except maybe in the Excursions where the 3.73 is adequate with the V10) and factory tow package with the 10k lb tow rating is what you'll want to look for.
Happy hunting!
Roger
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*** and for a 31, I'd go with a Suburban 2500 (3/4 ton) - Don't pay extra for the third seat. You can get six in the first two and have room for two full sized coffins behind the seats... That from a former funeral director. Alternately dog kennels, cribs, etc fit nicely in the back. The 2500 pretty much has the tow package included, but do note that the hitch on older ones is weaker (pre 2008) - many have replaced them for a couple of hundred bucks. I went from a 'burb to a Silverado. With a family the big honkin' fully air conditioned Silverado is the better choice.
Good luck, Paula FORD (how's that for irony?)
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07-01-2009, 03:52 PM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
St. Catharines
, South Western Ontario
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 2,367
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Good day Terry and Natasha....
Many of us on the forum here tow with cars and find it a great experience.
In many cases with a professional set up they will be one of the best handling an safest tow vehicles money can buy.
If you check out the Hensley video you will see some samples of cars towing Airstreams..... Trailer Sway Elimination Guaranteed - Hensley® the ONLY trailer hitch guaranteed to totally eliminate trailer sway.
There are some more examples here.... http://www.airforums.com/forums/f463...e-46809-6.html
Please note it is important to get the hitch and set up done correctly, but that being said that is important with any Tow Vehicle.
Good luck with your TV search.
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07-01-2009, 05:37 PM
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Aluminut
2004 25' Safari
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, Illinois
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 10,477
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tdturn2
I'm hitting craigslist and ebay for a TV. Right now we do not have one, and we will need to move our AS soon. We're planning to sell our two current vehicles.
Having the typical female attention span for all things mechanical , could anyone spell it out to me in easy, plain English: are there any family vehicles out there - modern or classic - that could pull (without damage to either) our 31' Sovereign?
We need a vehicle that seats five. We're trying to pass up the hopelessly ugly 20-year-old rusted, cracked trucks (don't want to shame the Airstream name) and the over-the-top insanely expensive new trucks . Is there an all-purpose vehicle out there?
- Natasha
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One word:
Suburban.
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07-01-2009, 06:05 PM
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New Member
1968 30' Sovereign
Rougemont
, North Carolina
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 4
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MY 68' manual that came with my Soverign only showed pictures of cars pulling them. Back then I believe trucks where for working not taking the family on vacation.
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07-01-2009, 06:21 PM
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Liquid Cooled
2017 27' Flying Cloud
Currently Looking...
Currently Looking...
Currently Looking...
near Indy
, Indiana
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 745
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Previous owner of our 85 31' pulled it with an 80's Olsmobile sedan, then two half ton Suburbans (not at the same time). Used a dual cam and put seveal trips between Cincy and Florida, Arkansas, and other places without bending anything. I'm sort of thinking that a full 3/4 ton might be overkill.
Not sure I have the courage to use an Olds, but I'd sure like to have seen it.
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07-01-2009, 06:26 PM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
St. Catharines
, South Western Ontario
Join Date: Aug 2002
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For sure WCI. This is my service manual.
Hard to believe the cars back then with bias tires, drum brakes, vague steering gear, etc towed Airstreams of all sizes but they did OK.
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07-01-2009, 06:48 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2008 34' Classic S/O
Cumberland
, Rhode Island
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 10
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TV or not TV
Two gentlemen from the Canadian unit, passed through here (RI) towing a 34 foot with the Dodge 300, no problem,
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07-01-2009, 06:56 PM
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Rivet Master
2011 34' Classic
Westchester Cty.NY
, / Miami FL
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 3,122
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just watch the weight ratings and remember that the little ones will be getting bigger and heavier as time goes on.
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2012 F150 Super Crew 5-1/2' bed Ecoboost 4x4 3.73 elec. lock diff. Propride hitch
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07-01-2009, 09:32 PM
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Aluminut
2004 25' Safari
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, Illinois
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 10,477
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silvia
Two gentlemen from the Canadian unit, passed through here (RI) towing a 34 foot with the Dodge 300, no problem,
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Another one word:
Comical
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07-01-2009, 10:18 PM
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moderator
Commercial Member
2016 27' International
Currently Looking...
Wilton
, California
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,711
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silvertwinkie
Another one word:
Comical
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Im partial to the smaller vehicles as you can see by my profile.
Ok seriously,
Under normal conditions with a very experienced driver the smaller car will probably do the job although for every one thousand miles you travel you just put five thousand miles of wear on it.
However, If you get yourself into jam its nice to have a vehicle that can tug that trailer around if you have to vs. the alternative
A 31 footer is not a lightweight!
Vin
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07-01-2009, 10:19 PM
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1972 Travelux Princess 25
Cobourg
, Ontario
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,059
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The Suburban is a good choice, or the equivalent Ford if you like Fords.
A 1/2 ton should do the job with the right equipment. If the vehicle does not have a trailer towing package adding a transmission cooler is a good idea and maybe an electric fan if you don't have one.
Another improvement is to install low profile tires. This effectively lowers your gearing and cuts down side sway. If the 1/2 ton seems low on power a set of new tires may fix it.
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07-01-2009, 11:41 PM
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Retired.
Currently Looking...
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Join Date: Jun 2003
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I would not advise a vintage tow vehicle, only because you may break down somewhere, and not be able to get parts for it. If you do want one, and can find one, I used to tow a Holiday Rambler all over the midwest with a 1973 Gran Torino station wagon. That was back when the Torino was new...
More modern power would be a truck, only because that is the only thing left with a full frame, and enough heft to move your new trailer. "Truck" could be a full-size van (long wheel base, but not the Maxi-Vans), pickup (extended cab preferred, or at least a long bed), or full-size SUV (Excursion, Expedition, Suburban, even Tahoe), with the larger V8 or V10. 1/2 ton would work, 3/4 ton would probably work better. Proper setup and equipment would be mandatory for any of them.
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07-02-2009, 12:02 AM
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Power to the People !
1972 31' Sovereign
SAN DIMAS
, California
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 447
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Excursion with a V10 or diesel. These days the larger SUV's seem to be easier to find at a lower price point, due to the gas costs. Used of course. Probably 2003 or earlier. We get about 11-12 mpg when towing on the hwy. We have a Excursion V10, 4x4, w/ banks exhaust (this helps on the grades) and it goes along very nicely, with plenty of room for kids and extra supplies. Any 1/2 ton or larger truck type vehicle would work too. This includes a lot of SUV's and full size vans. It's all about the gearing and tow capacity. What's your price point? We can help keep an eye out for good deals.
Good luck. Let us know what you end up with.
Mary
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07-02-2009, 07:25 AM
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Rivet Master
1994 30' Excella
alexandria
, Kentucky
Join Date: Aug 2004
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