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Old 10-11-2012, 05:22 AM   #29
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I'm sure the longer XL helps for stability. Flat road I was able to maintain speed in 3rd if I let it go to OD it would drop rpm and mph. But as you said any kind of grade it was in 2nd gear at 4k rpm trying to maintain speed. No way I could do a 750 mile trip with my wife and kids in the carlike that, so I scrapped the whole idea

My ford is great doesnt even come out of OD at 75 mph on almost any grade
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:37 PM   #30
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OK, got a quote from the dealership to remove the lift kit. Their first shot at it was 3250. Their second answer was 2800. Got another shop in town that does this kind of thing, both off and on, and specializes in alignment and brakes to do it for 1800. Most of the cost is parts since I asked that they all be OEM Ford.

So parts are on order and should get the kit off in a few weeks when everything comes in. The lift turned out to be a 4'' lift. I'll try and post some before and after pics and will report on the tow setup mods and ride quality when done.
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:49 PM   #31
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It only hurts once (ouch ). Will have to do some spending similar on mine as time/miles have taken their toll (and the need to replace before things wear out). A truck that runs around solo/empty isn't a fair comparison to one that is loaded/towing.
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Old 11-05-2012, 11:57 PM   #32
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Theres a reason many Superduty owners hold onto their 7.3's. Those engines were used in school busses and u-haul trucks. The 6.0 and 6.4 did some damage to Fords reputation. When a work crew needs to get to a job site they need the truck with tools on it to get there, not blow its head gaskets or eat its lifters or generally leave them stranded on the side of the road. I worked at a Ford dealer and these things were a common occurence.
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Old 11-06-2012, 05:28 PM   #33
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make sure you get all the lift kit parts back you can probably put them up on line and get some of that money back.

agree with nti06, its a real shame cause I like the 05+ superduty but the 6.0/6.4 just had sooooo many problems it is scary. I'm one of those guys with the work truck full of tools and my 6.0 has left me stranded numerous times. 2 egr coolers, oil coolers, 2 ficm modules, clogged egr passage, 1 turbo, 1 radiator, 4 alternators, 1 starter and probaly 18+ injectors. Its been towed in to the dealer so many times I lost track. And I take it in for service every 5k miles and let the dealer do all maintenance. Its 100% stock, dont even think about modding it... It has 205k miles and I cant wait to get a new truck.
It was a real shame cause they had a ton of power over the 7.3 but just dont hold up. I'm sure there are/were cummins and durmax failures out there but they were so few it never got public. Ford had to buy back a redicilous number of truck casue they just wouldnt stay running.

I'll stick with my 7.3 its powerfull enough to do what I need it to do and doesnt break down.
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Old 11-06-2012, 09:51 PM   #34
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I am definitely going to sell the kit locally. Lifted trucks are all over this town, I am sure someone will be very happy with it. That is just not my thing.

Should be a great tow vehicle by the time it is all done. Thanks for the comments, much appreciated.
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Old 11-24-2012, 10:19 AM   #35
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Tucson to Yuma. 10.9 MPG going no faster than 70 and most of the trip at ~63 (2000RPMS). Rig did not have a full load of water. Was probably right around 8k total trailer weight.
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Old 11-25-2012, 07:27 AM   #36
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Not bad, its the gears killing you now. 3.73's would get you probably another 2/3 mpg but it will probably cost you a couple grand to do it.

So how was the ride feel any different without the lift kit?
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Old 11-25-2012, 08:18 AM   #37
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Unless he does it himself lol. Then itll only cost a couple hundred per axle. 2wd would, of course, only need the rear axle done (dont remember if you said 2wd or 4wd)
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Old 11-25-2012, 08:15 PM   #38
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10.9 on the way back as well and this time went 70 the whole way. It was a nice drive. Still have the lift on, maybe this week. I think all the parts are now in. Getting much better with the truck. Climbing telegraph pass was a piece of cake. Of course towing an Airstream makes all the difference

Thanks for the comments. I'll post some before and after pics of the truck and also of the hitch setup.
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Old 11-25-2012, 10:20 PM   #39
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Glad you made the changes.

You can chase down the details to improve mpg. No, it won't be a CTD, but the percentage gain will be worth it, IMO. Records of all gallons & all miles. Some notes on temp, altitude changes, etc.

And, scale it and set up that hitch. The FA restoration will bring steering wander (corrections per 100-miles) back into line given no slop from steering wheel out to each wheel. Align both vehicles and check brake drag on both, these are common mpg problem areas.

12 should be within sight given steady state speeds (65 or less). From 10 to 12 is 20%. A big deal overall as fuel costs -- given $4/gl diesel --decline from 40-cpm to 33-cpm. ($900 fuel for a 3k mile vacation versus $1200).

There are quite a few ways to increase mpg . . most are about the driver (and more involved than just driving slowly), but all of them pay cash money. ROI is quick and basically painless.
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Old 12-14-2012, 09:37 PM   #40
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Got the truck back today with all FORD OEM parts back on it. What a difference! Also had the ball joints done. The ride is much better from a stiffness perspective, more like the Dodge I had. Also, steering is night and day tighter and more responsive. Height difference is significant. Kit turned out to be a Donahoe. Apparently it is a nice kit but I am just happy to have it off. Will set up the rig tomorrow and take some pics.
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Old 12-14-2012, 09:38 PM   #41
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Also hand calculated my mileage from Yuma with a fillup. 12.4 calculated vs. the 10.9 on the display.
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Old 12-15-2012, 12:26 PM   #42
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awsome glad its working out. They really are great trucks and will last you for years to come. Lift kits look good but dont always provide the better ride comfort. Oh and never believe that overhead console its notorious for being wrong. calculating the numbers by hand over the course of numerous tanks of fuel is the best way. You will pick up another 2+ mpg with a grear change. But as I said before might not be worth spending the $$$ to save it.
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