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Old 07-10-2015, 09:41 AM   #41
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If you talk to someone that buys a $60,000(plus sales tax) vehicle with say $10,000 down and finances the remainder for 6 years and after 3 years they decide for one reason or another, that they don't like the rig, they are so upside down they can't afford to make a change.

Your lease payment is paying off the depreciation. In all of the years I've leased, there was only one time where the residual was way different than the blue book value. On that one, we just turned it in to the dealer and leased a new one.

To each their own; leasing has been really good to me and my 2008 F-250 and the wife's 2007 Lincoln LT were both the result of leasing and then buying at the residual price at the end of the lease. You have a lot more options over the years with a lease vs buying a brand new rig. Check the value of a 3 year old vehicle with 40,000 miles vs the residual of a leased vehicle of the same value.
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Old 07-10-2015, 08:01 PM   #42
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F250/350 questions

Not true as I trade every 3 years for $15k F350 Supercrew platinum 4x4 SRW MSRP $68k ...but my trades are cleaner than the new one when I come in to pick it up.iIf you take good care of your vehicles they are in demand.Never upside down.


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Old 09-23-2015, 06:05 PM   #43
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One can easily have "too much truck" as in as bad as trucks are already, 4WD and off-road tread tires only make things worse. Weight becomes a detriment somewhere past 4000-lbs.

For a truck, when the adhesion of the contact patch is lost at the Drive Axle, so generally is the combined rig once at speed. The truck becomes the reason for the rollover. It goes over where a sedan spins out.

A VPP hitch should be an automatic purchase. Those who've never used one can be safely ignored as to the benefit. Whatever relieves the stress against the Drive Axle tires is all to the good. There is no adequate substitute when the rig is this size.

Slowmover - can you (or anyone) elaborate on the above? Also, what does VPP stand for?
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Old 09-24-2015, 09:46 AM   #44
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VPP -- Virtual Pivot Point (I had to google this)
Pro Pride Hitch FAQ

Their propaganda is directed toward their own 3P hitch, but I'm certain that other manufacturers like Hensley have similar verbiage.
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How is the ProPride 3P trailer sway control hitch different from other sway control hitches?

Conventional trailer sway control hitches apply some type of friction force to damp trailer sway. When a force is applied to the trailer it will attempt to pivot at the hitch ball. Any hitch that allows the trailer to pivot on the ball will allow the trailer to sway. Many hitches have friction forces integrated into the hitch design to damp that sway force.
The 3P works by projecting a virtual pivot point(tm) to near the rear axle of the tow vehicle. With Pivot Point Projection(tm), or 3P, technology incorporated in the main hitch head, the trailer's effective pivot point is no longer at the hitch ball when a force acts upon the towed trailer. The forward effective pivot point of the trailer shortens the lever arm distance between the pivot point of the trailer and the rear axle of the tow vehicle. Shortening that distance has a dramatic effect on the stability of both the trailer and the tow vehicle when the trailer is acted upon by an outside force. Many people who tow fifth wheel trailers or gooseneck trailers are familar with the stability that a forward pivot point provides.
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Old 09-28-2015, 04:23 PM   #46
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VPP -- Virtual Pivot Point (I had to google this)
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Their propaganda is directed toward their own 3P hitch, but I'm certain that other manufacturers like Hensley have similar verbiage.
Phlegm.. yeah.. probably 'propaganda'... but, the thing just works!
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Old 09-29-2015, 12:27 PM   #47
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Phlegm.. yeah.. probably 'propaganda'... but, the thing just works!
All sales advertisements in some way shape or form are propaganda.. "buy ours because it is better than others and here is why...."
The propaganda part comes from manufacturer specific terminology and a general lack of standardization. Leaves a lot of leeway for copywriters to say anything they like.

That is not to say the product isn't effective.
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