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Old 06-18-2016, 01:44 PM   #15
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Both the 5.0 and the 3.5 will do equally as well, but I would opt for the 3.73 rear end on either kne, plus the 36 gallon gas tank. The 3.5 has a little more power and torque, but the 5.0 is a much simplified engine in comparison.
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Old 06-18-2016, 01:47 PM   #16
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See the recent issue of Car and Driver which compared a F-150 equipped with the 3.5 Ecoboost and one equipped with the V8. Interesting reading.
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Old 06-18-2016, 03:10 PM   #17
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All about the gear ratio
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Old 06-18-2016, 03:19 PM   #18
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We've been using a 2008 GMC Max Tow 6L and have absolutely no complaints. Fuel mileage towing and empty is totally acceptable and the payload of 1957 lbs has been plenty.
If U had the money to buy new I would go to the new GM with the 6.2L and Max tow for the same 3 reasons of payload,mileage and towing capacity. Used I'm going to have to wait a couple of years for this same truck to show up.


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Old 06-18-2016, 03:38 PM   #19
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It's a rather lengthy read, but here's our story about going from a 2013 F150 w/5.0 to a 2015 F150 w/3.5 EB. I can add after just completing an 11 night trip with our Pete in the mountains of North GA and Western NC, that I am once again pleased that we made the change. The 3.5 handled the short but stout grades in the country we were running (mostly 6%, some up to 8%) very well with our coach weighing around 6500 lbs loaded.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f463...le-141137.html

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I pull my 30' International with a RAM 1500 5.7. I have tested Fords and just don't find the seats are comfortable for me so I have had very good luck with GMC's (on my third 3500 Dually Duramax) but for ride comfort, power, and fuel economy I really like the RAM (unloaded around 19-20 mpg). I have yet to find a mountain pass I had to slow down on for lack of power including the North Cascads Hwy and the Vantage grade in WA and some 7000 foot passes in southern Utah. I'm very happy!
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Old 06-18-2016, 06:28 PM   #21
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Both the 5.0 and the 3.5 will do equally as well, but I would opt for the 3.73 rear end on either kne, plus the 36 gallon gas tank. The 3.5 has a little more power and torque, but the 5.0 is a much simplified engine in comparison.

Actually there is a bigger difference as the 3.5 does very well at high altitude where the 5.0 suffers substantial loss of horsepower and torque.The turbos are the key.


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Old 06-18-2016, 08:55 PM   #22
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Forget the Mega Hitch. If you do need to lock the trailer there are many much cheaper ways to do it. A pad lock through the hitch lever or a ball lock.

As for the truck it depends on where you intend to go and if yo are going to use the truck for other things. If you are headed for the maintains go for the V8. If the larger share of the usage is daily to work and your going to say on the plains go for the ECO.

The biggest single thing that most people overlook when picking a TV is the rear axle ration. You smaller trucks are designed for Soccer Moms and so called fuel mileage. Then tend to have the wrong gear ratio for pulling. When used that way there is a noticeable lack of power.
The the turbocharged Ecoboost V6 is actually better then the V8 at high altitudes. It also has better torque than the V8 for overall mountain driving.
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Old 06-18-2016, 10:27 PM   #23
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As for the truck it depends on where you intend to go and if yo are going to use the truck for other things.

If you are headed for the mountains go for the V8. If the larger share of the usage is daily to work and your going to say on the plains go for the ECO. This is backwards.

The biggest single thing that most people overlook when picking a TV is the rear axle ratio. Your smaller trucks are designed for Soccer Moms and so called fuel mileage. Then tend to have the wrong gear ratio for pulling. When used that way there is a noticeable lack of power.

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The the turbocharged Ecoboost V6 is actually better then the V8 at high altitudes. It also has better torque than the V8 for overall mountain driving.

Hi, a blown, super charged, or turbo charged engine works much better in the mountains. A naturally aspirated engine can lose around 30% of it's horse power in high altitudes. My 2014 F-150 came with a payload of 1,745 lbs, 36 gallon gas tank, and 3:73 gears. I also have the max tow package and towing mirrors. More toys (high end trucks) equals lower payloads.
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Old 06-18-2016, 10:45 PM   #24
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Any model half-ton truck with the large V8 will do a great job at a reasonable cost. As mentioned, the rear axle ratio for towing is most important.

We had a Ram 5.7 Hemi V8 with 3.55 axles and it did a great job, but needed to use lower transmission gears much of the time. The same truck with 3.92 axles would have been much better.

Used or new. I like the $10,000 discounts, 0% interest, and full warranty of new. Don't get the fancy model for best value.
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Old 06-19-2016, 08:14 AM   #25
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I found a 2013 with under 25 miles at my favorite dealer. It so far has been doing a good job towing my 1979 Safari 23'
I'm happy. Mileage isn't too bad either. Best of luck with whatever you decided.
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My son has a eco boost 2011 and he pulls a 35' trailer with 3 slides. It is under 10,000 LBS and that is the important part. The older eco will pull 10,500 Lbs I think the newer one pulls 11,700 so with that liter trailer U wont have a problem Also I think the diff is a 373 ratio whitch is a good towing diff and also good for solo

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CONGRATS brother Safari! The question you ask has much to do with budget and how willing you are to spend. Here is a bit of what is coming on the Ford F150 front: They are redesigning the 3.5L EB and it will address some of the weaknesses of the current 3.5 (not that it is bad but..., the changes adds 30 ft lbs of torque to give it the current highest pulling power. Also, they are adding the joint venture GM/Ford 10 speed transmission. This is supposed to change the rear axle of choice for towing to a 3.05. The highest current model tow rear is 3.55. Naturally the newer model is even lighter and is expected to get at least 20% better mileage even towing. Actual unknown. All this for 2017 upcoming. Now that you know that, can you wait for a truck until September or so?If not, the 2015 gets you the aluminum one at about 20-30% off MSRP. I would suggest that if you go with a 5.0 2014 or earlier to get the 3.75. The cost in mpg is unknown to me. I can tell you as a previous owner of 2009 F150 4.6L HO V8 (HO high output- much different than the regular 4.6) I got an average of 12mpg towing with a 3.55 rear and the six speed tranny. With the 2015 3.5 EB and 3.55 I get about the same but I have much more power on tap. Not towing I have gained 2 mpg in town and 3-4 mpg on highway.

I also am partial to the ProPride hitch. That would also act as a deterrent to someone without a stinger to hitch it up with. Just sayin.

The 2015 EB crew 145" wheelbase with 3.5 4x2 and max tow is 12,900 lbs. with a 17,000# GCWR - the truck weighs about 5000#
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Old 06-19-2016, 03:00 PM   #28
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Actually there is a bigger difference as the 3.5 does very well at high altitude where the 5.0 suffers substantial loss of horsepower and torque.The turbos are the key.


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That is one consideration, and so is the fact that twin turbochargers will eventually fail. So you may beat the 5.0 to the top of the mountain, but it may pass you while on the side of the road with your hood up. The other advantage of the 5.0 is that can use "flex-fuel", or 85 octane which doesn't work well with the eco-boost engines when towing. Like I said, with the 3.73 rear end ratio, I'd take any of the commonly available Ford F-150 engines; 5.0, 3.5 or the 2.7, all will work.
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