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Old 05-02-2016, 11:50 PM   #99
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You can save $8-9,000 with the 6.2 gas engine and still have the advantage of the F250 carriage. With the standard 3.73 rear end and 6 speed tranny, it is a very nice rig. Much less maintenance costs as well over a diesel. Try one out before you go with a diesel, been there done that and I will never go back to a diesel.
visited Ford today and discussed new 17 models coming out. They are accepting early orders on F250; negatives for me on this size are driving around town, even small 6.5 bed is too much hassle for parking, etc..and small bed only has 25 gallon tank. My Platinum F150 EB 4X4 short bed super crew is great ride and has big fuel tank; I want a half T with lots of torque, range in fuel, no hassle gas engine, short bed, some compression breaking help, at least 8 speed, and nice ride. Looked at Ford today and Dodge; now thinking the 6.2 Silverado with HD tow looking pretty good at this point. Ford and Chrysler "truck" sales experts I talked with today could not argue. Still have 20K and 1 year time on my 100K F150 warranty before I pull the trigger, but leaning toward the GM at this point after test ride and specs. Hope you all can help me with my decision over coming months with your experiences...good for us all. God Bless you diesel guys...just not for me with 3/4 T for city driving...
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Old 05-03-2016, 01:37 AM   #100
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visited Ford today and discussed new 17 models coming out. They are accepting early orders on F250; negatives for me on this size are driving around town, even small 6.5 bed is too much hassle for parking, etc..and small bed only has 25 gallon tank. My Platinum F150 EB 4X4 short bed super crew is great ride and has big fuel tank; I want a half T with lots of torque, range in fuel, no hassle gas engine, short bed, some compression breaking help, at least 8 speed, and nice ride. Looked at Ford today and Dodge; now thinking the 6.2 Silverado with HD tow looking pretty good at this point. Ford and Chrysler "truck" sales experts I talked with today could not argue. Still have 20K and 1 year time on my 100K F150 warranty before I pull the trigger, but leaning toward the GM at this point after test ride and specs. Hope you all can help me with my decision over coming months with your experiences...good for us all. God Bless you diesel guys...just not for me with 3/4 T for city driving...
As you search for your next truck, one thing to consider is the turning radius of the truck... My last Platinum F-150 with the 5 1/2' bed required 47 feet to turn around... Our new Ram 2500 requires 44'! Driving and parking the Ram in tight places (we live in New England...everything is tight here!) is actually easier than it was in the Ford and the Ram is something like 6" longer in length overall.

I kind of liked the GM trucks too but wanted a tighter turning radius. Just another data point to confuse the decision...
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Old 05-03-2016, 02:33 AM   #101
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Been looking at this for some time. Here are some thoughts, might agree or not. I own a 2013, F-150, Eco Boost, Platinum screw, tow package. Looking at 25 foot AS. On mine, before the aluminum body, with 800 pounds of tongue weight, a Hensley or ProPride hitch, full tank of fuel, two people, I have maxed out my TV capacity. It will handle the trailer with no problem but I am thinking there are several people who are overloading their TV. May or may not lead to future problems. I have decided, if I do not get an Interstate, to get the 2017 F 250. That way, I will not have to worry about each and every thing I want to carry in the TV, will have way more capacity for towing any trailer in the AS line and not have to worry about the potential overload. Thats why they make more than one model.
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I towed my 25FC with a 2011 F150 EB Platinum Screw and it pulled very well in many types of terrain. It had an 1100 payload and by time you get full tanks of gas, spouse, dogs, hitched up and the other misc items you take on a lengthy trip the payload is about out if not over payload limit. When I went to the 2015 F150EB Platinum Screw I gained some payload, up to 1530 something. Went to 28FC with ProPride hitch and still in same situation with payload. Scale verified. With the way we travel for months at a time and through various mountain areas, I made the decision to upgrade the TV to a 2017 F250 Platinum with the 6.7 PSD to gain not only the stronger brakes as well as exhaust brakes, but the gained payload flexibility to carry more if needed. Now just waiting on the 2017 to get here in late Aug or Sept.

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Hi, I know it was your choice, but if you didn't have to get the most fancy schmancy truck made, you would have the proper payload to do the job. My XLT has a payload of 1,745 lbs.
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Old 05-03-2016, 12:44 PM   #102
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F150 EB owners who have moved to F250/F350?

Some people choose not to drive a base model.Especially when traveling.For most people comfort and convenience play a big part in tow vehicle selection.

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Old 05-03-2016, 02:22 PM   #103
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My basic 4x4 1/2 ton has a GVWR of 6,200 lbs and weighs 4,760 empty, leaving a "payload" of 1,640 lbs.

My trailer and hitch weigh 7,880 lbs, about 1,000 lbs. or a bit more on the tongue.

Last trip out I had tools and things in the bed of the truck that weighed 1,160 lbs.

Total loaded gross combination weight of 13,800 pounds.

I tightened down my 1,000 pound Hensley WD bars a little more than usual and the combination handled like it was on rails, a pleasure to drive.

A properly outfitted 1/2 ton can make a superb tow vehicle.


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If I am real honest with myself, I have to acknowledge that the 2500 diesel is a boost to my manhood. And, while expensive, it is probably one of the more economical manhood boosts available.
I can articulate rationale reasons as well, but that's not really the whole story.
I am OK buying myself a bit of manhood.
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Old 05-03-2016, 09:41 PM   #105
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If I am real honest with myself, I have to acknowledge that the 2500 diesel is a boost to my manhood. And, while expensive, it is probably one of the more economical manhood boosts available.
I can articulate rationale reasons as well, but that's not really the whole story.
I am OK buying myself a bit of manhood.
Never felt the need myself, but I think your rationale makes sense to a lot of people.
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Old 05-04-2016, 08:10 AM   #106
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I think a person should buy what they like for whatever reasons they feel matter to them.

I have owned and driven a few one ton pickup trucks and I own some now that I use in my business.

My point is, is that a well set up half ton can make a superb tow vehicle for any Airstream made except for maybe the slide out models.


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You can save $8-9,000 with the 6.2 gas engine and still have the advantage of the F250 carriage. With the standard 3.73 rear end and 6 speed tranny, it is a very nice rig. Much less maintenance costs as well over a diesel. Try one out before you go with a diesel, been there done that and I will never go back to a diesel.

I'm debating right now what will eventually replace my 2010 F250 diesel... Will it be another diesel, or will the 6.2 do? I really appreciate the diesel's power climbing the hills of the western US, almost as much as its braking power going down the same hills. Towing a 27FB. What's behind yours?


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Old 05-04-2016, 08:05 PM   #108
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F150 EB owners who have moved to F250/F350?

A 1/2 ton trucks do a good job as long as you don't exceed their designed limits.A 3/4 ton does a good job as long as do not exceed their designed limits same with a one ton.
A 1/2 ton is not the answer for all applications even though they can pull it doesn't make it the right choice for all applications.That is why they make 3/4 and 1 ton.You reach a point with heavier tongue weight Airstream's that a 3/4 ton is a more comfortable choice.I started with a new F150 properly set up pulling my 28ft International and soon found that it was at its limits and we were not comfortable towing with it.
Switched to a new F350 and their will be no going back.I have experienced both and have found the people on this forum who bash the heavier trucks with bs have their own agendas and or have never pulled with a 2012 or newer 3/4 or 1 ton. There is a big difference in comfort and stability.The resale value if ordered properly and taken care of provides for a much better towing experience at the same or less cost of overall ownership if you enjoy trading every 3-4 years.

I have been in the automobile business for over 40 years and have ordered hundreds of trucks so if I can make an error in tow vehicles as I did so can you.


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There is no doubt a bigger truck can pull more. I don't think that's the issue. Some of us don't want a big truck as a daily driver. Or we live in a place where we can't park one. So we pull what we can with a smaller truck.

I don't understand the bias one way or the other.
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There is no bias on my part.Just making a comment,and trying to help.
Its not about pulling more as they can all pull even the largest Airstream.

There is very little difference in using a 1/2 ,3/4 or 1 ton as daily drivers in either ride quality and or maneuverability.


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"I don't understand the bias one way or the other."

See post #104.

Other than that, the difference is not much.
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There is no bias on my part.
Just making a comment.There is very little difference in using a 1/2 ,3/4 or 1 ton as daily drivers in either ride quality and or maneuverability.
Well, I've test driven the larger trucks, and they indeed ride nice, but parking them in normal parking places can be a problem. And they won't fit in my condo parking lot. So there is a trade off in moving up to a 250/350 and going to a crowded mall. Especially when I can safely tow a 30 footer with a smaller vehicle.

No, I can't tow that monster 5th wheeler. But a 30' Flying Cloud is just fine.
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