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Old 04-26-2016, 03:48 PM   #71
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What Loden said.


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Old 04-26-2016, 04:18 PM   #72
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Here we go again; another great opinion thread on which truck; I love it! We now have 80K on our 2012' Platinum, EB 4X4 Supercab short bed, with HD tow package, pulling our 25' FC. For all the reasons owners state, the F150 is a "great ride" for both pulling and without pulling. Two areas keep me looking for next TV, however, are breaking down long grades, and engine heating up going up long grades in hot weather. I think I have the trailer breaks now "tuned" to help going down, but wish I had more compression break assistance. The overheating I am not sure what to do, cept slow down to 40 on those long pulls and watch the temp gauge carefully.
I did like driving the new 8spd. 6.2L Chevy recently a lot; great power numbers, big tank, and ride was great also; heard their could be issues down the road with engine towing? That is what I am also concerned about with the F150 EB; blown engine.

I also liked some features in new Nissan Cummings 2/3T; cept, small additive tank, only 6 speed trany, and small gas tank. I just don't want to move to 3/4 T; hard enough to park a 1/2 ton in most parking spaces these days... Appreciate the information from the "experts" here on the Forum to help us see errors of our ways...
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Old 04-26-2016, 04:51 PM   #73
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gypsydad, we have learned a lot from the big/small tow vehicle threads when posters are kind and helpful.

I can see benefits to all sizes of tow vehicles so each Airstreamer has to sort out which information is useful to his particular situation. We have no use for heavy loads in our truck so, with a modern pivot point projection hitch, solid tires at full pressure when towing, and quality shock absorbers in good condition the half-ton suits us perfectly. We can manage the 3% of use on steep grades by using our transmission as needed up and down, and let the engine get enough rpm to deliver needed power up and compression braking down. As for stability on the roadway, our 3P hitch allows total comfort in any condition; two fingers on the wheel will do it, maybe there's a tow vehicle allowing one finger steering control. And it's a decent daily driver.

IF we carried heavy loads, a much heavier trailer, and/or lived where much of towing was up and down steep grades we would be looking at a heavy duty pickup. The diesel pulling power is admirable and exhaust brake probably needed with these loads and conditions.

The engine heating issue you bring up is something we have not had with out gas non-turbo half-tons. Perhaps the turbo adds to it, we have one now in our new truck and it's does run warmer. It's new to us, summer will be a better test.
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My neighbor was having serious stability issues towing a 7000# trailer with an F150. Everything (hitch, brake controller, tires, etc) seemed to be setup correctly. I suggested he get himself a PPP hitch (you can tell I've been around in this forum for way too long), as it might solve the problem, and would be cheaper than a TV upgrade. He traded in his F150 for an F250 Diesel. Towing the same trailer using the same hitch, all the stability issues have disappeared. He is very happy and enjoys the relaxed towing experience.

Now, I'm not saying anyone towing over 6k or 7k should get a HD truck (many people successfully tow heavy loads with 1/2 tons). But to suggest an HD truck, towing a heavy load, is less stable is just absurd.
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Too bad your neighbor didn't take your hitch advice, he could have saved a lot of money and been at least as happy.
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I'm sure his setup is more stable than a 1/2 to with PPP. You get what you pay for as far as cost is concerned.
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I also liked some features in new Nissan Cummings 2/3T; cept, small additive tank, only 6 speed trany, and small gas tank. I just don't want to move to 3/4 T; hard enough to park a 1/2 ton in most parking spaces these days... Appreciate the information from the "experts" here on the Forum to help us see errors of our ways...[/QUOTE]

Sorry; Nissan's new Cummings is a 5/8T; not 2/3T; but I digress.... any one have an update on the Ford 10 speed trany? Which models will carry in 2017?
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"any one have an update on the Ford 10 speed trany? Which models will carry in 2017?"

That will be interesting for those of us towing Airstreams. I was surprised how nice going from 6-spd to 8-spd was; smooth shifting and engine speed transition. Great for engine compression braking.
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I have really appreciated the discussion. On balance it seems like almost all 3/4 ton owners are happy. And, there are also a number of 1/2 ton owners who are happy although several are thinking about a 3/4 ton. Given that I am over my GVWR and a new truck is in the budget, I think I am going to order a new Chevy 2500 Duramax. I really don't care about MPG because when I am spending money on TV fuel, that means I am out having fun....more fuel, more fun.
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When we had to move to a more capable tow vehicle because the axle ratings were exceeded on the 2007 Mercedes ML320 towing a fully loaded 2013 25FB International Serenity, we only considered a Ram 2500HD Cummins as I knew the engine was reliable. Ford and GM have had their issues engine wise and a straight six is always a smoother running engine than any V8.

And I knew a ¾ ton would be also able to tow a bigger trailer with no compromises.

At the time, I was vey unimpressed with the body design of both Ford and GM products.

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Yeah but it's still a Dodge.
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Hey pappy, never thought I would own a Dodge but after a flawless 50K miles on our first one we have another. The new truck's are all nice and a good value for towing Airstreams.
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"any one have an update on the Ford 10 speed trany? Which models will carry in 2017?"

That will be interesting for those of us towing Airstreams. I was surprised how nice going from 6-spd to 8-spd was; smooth shifting and engine speed transition. Great for engine compression braking.

I just returned from a dealership today ordering a 2017 F250 and asked about the 10 speed transmission. It is slated to go in the 2017 F150's. It will be first out in the Raptors which have a beefed up 3.5 EB engine and then put into the production F150's later in the year.

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Hey pappy, never thought I would own a Dodge but after a flawless 50K miles on our first one we have another. The new truck's are all nice and a good value for towing Airstreams.

Glad to hear you found a good one, but instead of hijacking this thread to promote a Dodge, the original question was about the F-150, the most popular vehicle in America and there is a reason it is, reliability and functions. Right now in the Boise area, the Dodge dealers are taking $20,000 off MSRP to try and dump as many trucks as possible. Imagine what that will do to their re-sale value and depreciation. No thanks, I'll take a Ford any day.
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