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Old 04-19-2016, 11:35 PM   #43
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My 2016 F250 is quiet with more power that I need with no exhaust fumes to speak of. The 2017's promise to be as smart as the F150's.
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Old 04-20-2016, 07:05 AM   #44
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Most of the input here has been very helpful...thank you.

I was able to go across the scales with my F150 hooked up and observed that I was about 600 pounds over my truck GVWR when hitched. I am sure that explains some of the suspension stress I am feeling.

The local Chevy dealer let me take home a new 2500 HD Diesel yesterday and hook it up to my trailer for a test drive. I gave it a thorough drive and was pretty amazed at the difference...not in power, but in suspension control. And, the unloaded ride was way better than I expected. Something to think about for sure.
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Old 04-21-2016, 05:47 AM   #45
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Most of the input here has been very helpful...thank you.

I was able to go across the scales with my F150 hooked up and observed that I was about 600 pounds over my truck GVWR when hitched. I am sure that explains some of the suspension stress I am feeling.

The local Chevy dealer let me take home a new 2500 HD Diesel yesterday and hook it up to my trailer for a test drive. I gave it a thorough drive and was pretty amazed at the difference...not in power, but in suspension control. And, the unloaded ride was way better than I expected. Something to think about for sure.
I just did the same thing yesterday at the local Ford dealer - F250 and F150 4x4. Both of them had a superior towing experience then my 4x2 2015 F150. Ended up going with the 2016 F150 EB 4x4. The stiffer suspension took care of the boating and squishy tow and The 150 's size makes it a great daily driver.

Thanks everyone for the very useful feedback.
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I just did the same thing yesterday at the local Ford dealer - F250 and F150 4x4. Both of them had a superior towing experience then my 4x2 2015 F150. Ended up going with the 2016 F150 EB 4x4. The stiffer suspension took care of the boating and squishy tow and The 150 's size makes it a great daily driver.
If I may ask, what kind of weight distribution system are you planning on?
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Old 04-21-2016, 07:24 AM   #47
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I just did the same thing yesterday at the local Ford dealer - F250 and F150 4x4. Both of them had a superior towing experience then my 4x2 2015 F150. Ended up going with the 2016 F150 EB 4x4. The stiffer suspension took care of the boating and squishy tow and The 150 's size makes it a great daily driver.

Thanks everyone for the very useful feedback.
The term you use "boating" is perfect. That's is what I have been trying to describe. Glad you were able to find a good solution.
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Old 04-21-2016, 08:17 AM   #48
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"Squishy" sounds like too low tire pressure or too soft sidewall tire type. "Boating" sounds like not enough weight distribution hitch adjustment or capability, made worse by weak shock absorbers.

Both can result in some "talk wagging the dog" feeling; all easily curable and you don't need a new truck to do it.

If the truck's axles/tires are all overloaded, that's another story curable with taking out some stuff or a heavier truck suspension.

I'm catching some flack for suggesting staying the course and fixing what you have, but not everyone has new truck money in their pocket to spare.
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Old 04-21-2016, 08:25 AM   #49
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"Squishy" sounds like too low tire pressure or too soft sidewall tire type. "Boating" sounds like not enough weight distribution hitch adjustment or capability, made worse by weak shock absorbers.

Both can result in some "talk wagging the dog" feeling; all easily curable and you don't need a new truck to do it.

If the truck's axles/tires are all overloaded, that's another story curable with taking out some stuff or a heavier truck suspension.

I'm catching some flack for suggesting staying the course and fixing what you have, but not everyone has new truck money in their pocket to spare.
Forgive me Doug, I very fond of you but I must ask...
Didn't you recently purchase a new truck to replace an otherwise serviceable truck?
Sometimes people just want a new vehicle, sometimes they will have an opinion that differs from yours and sometimes a big truck is an ok answer...
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Old 04-21-2016, 08:47 AM   #50
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Bruce, you are absolutely correct. The o.p. listed some concerns about his current truck and the forum is here to help fellow Airstreamers. If he needs a new truck to solve the issues that's fine.

Our new truck is the same brand and size as the one we had, your new truck is larger than the one you had. No problem, we buy what we like.

I fully understand some folks are not really looking for advice on their present truck, but seeking confirmation of a decision they have already made. That's where good intentions can be taken as argumentative and will be punished.
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"If the truck's axles/tires are all overloaded, that's another story curable with taking out some stuff or a heavier truck suspension."

The OP said he is 600# over the GVWR. How in the world is the OP going to shed 600# off the truck weight by "taking out stuff"?
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"If the truck's axles/tires are all overloaded, that's another story curable with taking out some stuff or a heavier truck suspension."

The OP said he is 600# over the GVWR. How in the world is the OP going to shed 600# off the truck weight by "taking out stuff"?
I would use a wheelbarrow.
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I would use a wheelbarrow.
Could you please stop trolling this thread, and let members help the OP?
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I suppose you could add a leaf to the springs however that would not legally make you ok. Then you still would have tire and axle concerns.
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When we did the complete Kelderman level ride air bag suspension, all the steel springs front and rear were replaced with air bags. The rear has a pair of 5,000 pound rated airbags. Great, an increase in load capacity....

Nope! The axle is still rated 6,010 pounds as are the tires at 70 psi. That is the controlling weak link n the chain.

So adding an air bag or another spring to some other vehicle may stiffen the ride, but the axle and tire ratings may still control what weight can be carried.

Only a modification shop that could issue a new "modified" door sticker can make any legal difference by putting a more capacity axle on the vehicle taking into account if the metal in the frame of the vehicle can handle the higher loads.

One would need access to the parts books to see if the frame rails are the exact same part number between a and a 1 ton truck of the same brand.
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