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Old 09-17-2008, 12:37 PM   #1
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F-150 FX4 towing 2008 25'FB International -- Am I OK?

Hello Everyone,

I'm new to the Airforums.com, so first off, just want to say HI!

Now on to my Question: I am going to be buying an Airstream next summer. The one I really have my mind set on is the 2008 25'FB international series. My current Tow vehicle will be a 2006 Ford F150 FX4. That truck has the 5.4L Triton engine, 4X4 package with factory tow upgrade package. I need to varify for the exact wheel base length, but I have the super cab (not super crew) with the 6.5' bed. I have to double check, but I believe the Max. Tow rating is 9200 lbs. for my configuration. Will this vehicle be sufficient to tow the 5410 lb (empty weight) trailer without running into any problems/uncormfortable driving conditions? Are there any truck upgrades or tips I could consider in order to make the towing experience more comfortable?

To elaborate a bit more on my outings, I will likely be taking this rig mostly to the Eastern parts of Canada and the US in the summers including areas such as Nova Scotia, Newfoundland and into the eastern states such as ME, VT, and NH which I know can be somewhat mountainous. I will also probably be taking it to FL for the winters and may be passing through the Blue Ridge mountains in PA on my route down from Toronto to Miami where I also anticipate some fairly impressive grades. My cargo will be maximum 2 adults + a large breed dog (115 lbs) as well as modestly packed clothing, food, small yardworks 950W generator (35lbs) and another couple hundred pounds of misc. stuff that I can't think of but would like to allow for. I also would Ideally like to be able to travel with the tanks loaded up (Both LP and H2O) since my trips will normally be longer in nature.

Now, the truck I am using has been my work truck for the past 3 years. I am due for a new work truck within a year, but due to the nature of my job (new home construction), I only require a half-ton. Would it be an idea of upgrading to a 3/4 ton for personal use and keep the F-150 for work? or will I be fine keeping the 150 as my personal use TV and then just replacing my work vehicle with a newer half ton?

Thanks for your help! And I appologise in advance for the lengthy post!
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Old 09-17-2008, 12:51 PM   #2
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My two cents is you may be just inside the envelope for towing with your F150, but an F250 would be better, and an F250 diesel would be best. I am sure others will chime in, but like I said, just my two cents.
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Old 09-17-2008, 12:52 PM   #3
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Welcome to the forum. Hit search button above. Then sit tight as you will find about 10K posts on this subject. There are three groups. Those who think you can tow and haul any weight with any vehicle that will get it moving. Those who believe that you must have a 250/2500 class to tow anything but a Bambi. Finally, those somewhere inbetween. For even more fun, go to the RV.NET forums. Those folks go for blood on the issue of how much truck one needs.
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thanks for the info! will definitely start searching!
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Old 09-17-2008, 01:21 PM   #5
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Hi Echoroxy,

I have a 28' Int that I tow with a F150 4x4 5.4 and it goes perfect. If rated for 9200 lbs you'll be more than fine.
Going with a F250 with the same engine won't give you more as the 250 is heavier than the 150. Then going with a diesel is overkill.

As you are in Toronto go to see Can Am, ask to talk to Andy he'll tell you everything about towing.
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hi roxy welcome to the forums...

there is a LOT of info here on the 150s and towing capability with various 'streams...

while your current truck will handle the new 25s loaded, consider this...

many folks opt for a larger/longer trailer VERY quickly after the 1st 'stream...

so given where u are in your truck purchasing cycle, it makes sense to consider a 250 class tv with MORE engine...

or watch for the diesel version of the 'big' 1/2 tons that are in the pipeline...

for folks who have SPACE and can afford to have 2 vehicles,

separating out the towing/travel use from day2day 'round town needs is a successful approach.

so you are on the right track with the process and thinking this through....

just keep in mind that the towing capacity u see listed...

for virtually EVERY tv (except vw/audi/porsche) is LOWERED whenever cargo/payload is IN the tv...

using your '9200 lb' rating above, 1500 lbs of people, gear n options (a shell) IN d' truck, results in an adjustment to 7700 lbs...

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echoroxy,

Welcome to the forum.

My truck is not a Ford, but a GMC simularly equipped, and I tow a '01 25' excella with no issues to date. My truck is the 1/2 ton, extended cab, short bed (same length as yours), with GM's 5.3 liter, 2WD, and tow package (3.73:1 rear end ratio). I believe you will have no trouble with the 150. However, I think at this point if I were buying a new truck, I would consider the 3/4 ton diesel. Just my opinion.
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Thanks to all for the replies! Sounds like I should be OK, but may want to consider a 3/4 ton if I can foresee an airstream upgrade in the future. Now I can't say for sure, but I feel that for my purpose, the 25' should be more than enough room with the amount of passengers and type of traveling I tend to do. But then again, who's to know... I may just get tempted for a 30' slide classic years down the road. For the time being, I since I am going to be in the market for an Airstream before a TV upgrade, I am going to try this setup on short trips next summer to see how in handles. If I'm happy, I'll keep the TV as is, and if not, when it's time to upgrade trucks next fall, I can take the plunge and go for a 3/4 ton. My biggest priority is to feel comfortable with the trailer that I am pulling. I want some extra power as security, but do not want overkill.

I'll keep you updated!

Dufferin - Can Am, is that the dealer located in London ON?
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Echoroxy,

I recently downgraded from a 2000 Excursion diesel to a 2005 F-150 that I use to haul a 25' Safari. The F-150 handles the trailer as good if not better than the Excursion. That's impossible, right? There's no way a 1/2 ton truck can tow better than a 3/4 ton! Wrong. The steering is better, the suspension is far better, the stability is better. It's a great truck.

However, you're not going to be racing up any mountains. I can climb the Ozark hills in 3rd gear without dropping below 55 mph but I'll be out in Yellowstone next summer where I'll probably be climbing the 7% grades in 2nd gear at 50 mph.

I've taken a pretty bad hit on fuel cost. Even though diesel fuel is more expensive you get better economy that more than makes up for it. I was getting 14 mpg with the Excursion. Now I'm getting 11.5. That's about $50 more per 1,000 miles at current prices.

I can't wait for the 2010 F-150 diesel.
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Hello Echo

You have a great tow vehicle for that trailer. That 5.4 liter is the new generation 3 valve per cylinder. You could tow much more that you are with no problem.
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Hi Echoroxy, I have a 2006 F150 extended cab with the 5.4 3 valve and tow my 1966 22ft Safari with no problems. I get 21mpg without and 17mpg while towing with the truck bed loaded to the max. Like others said....a diesel 250 would do better but you'll be fine with what you have. Steve
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We have a 2005 F-150 4X4 with the 5.4L Triton, SuperCab, Tow pkg etc. etc. We pull a Safari 27 FBSE & WD hitch. While it's may not be the optimal TV, according to some here, I'm not out there hot rodding with the trailer in tow. I've been very comfortable with the setup. My biggest issue was the adjustment from pulling a 22' AS (our prior tt) to the length of the 27. That extra length can be tricky if you don't watch carefully.
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Echoroxy ----

Go to www.rvtowingtips.com and read all the details you need to get the 'scoop' on towing. This author has done 'a ton' of research and put it in words that are easy to understand.

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Thanks for all the replies, it's comforting to see how helpful people are around here

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We have a 2005 F-150 4X4 with the 5.4L Triton, SuperCab, Tow pkg etc. etc. We pull a Safari 27 FBSE & WD hitch. While it's may not be the optimal TV, according to some here, I'm not out there hot rodding with the trailer in tow. I've been very comfortable with the setup. My biggest issue was the adjustment from pulling a 22' AS (our prior tt) to the length of the 27. That extra length can be tricky if you don't watch carefully.
What specifically do you mean by "can be tricky" with the 27' AS? Are you referring to extra tranny and engine stress caused by the extra load? Towing up grades? Or do you just mean that it can be more tricky to maneuver due to length? Do you think I may face some of the same challenges with a 25 footer? (It's kind of something in the middle between a 22' and 27')
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