View Poll Results: What size Airstream are you towing with your F-150 Ecoboost.
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16'
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2.44% |
19'
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2.44% |
20'
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7.32% |
22'
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0% |
23'
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4.88% |
25'
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21.95% |
27'
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17.07% |
28'
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24.39% |
30'
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14.63% |
31'
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0% |
34'
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9.76% |
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01-22-2015, 08:10 PM
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#21
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2 Rivet Member
2019 27' Globetrotter
Edmonton
, Alberta
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 30
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A 23 foot FC with a 2013 eb 3.55 axle. Amazing power and torque compared to the 5.3l Chevy that I had before. The one downside is that even with this size trailer the truck is 300 lbs over on the rear axle.
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01-22-2015, 09:40 PM
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#22
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4 Rivet Member
2013 28' International
Bozeman
, Montana
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 466
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No problem towing in the mountains with our 28 International and F150 Ecoboast with Max tow. Love the engine and transmission, very stable with a Propride hitch. Hate the crappy brake rotors on F150s, warp too easy. Also, MySynch is junk. Otherwise, it has been a good tow vehicle for our Airstream for the past 11k or so miles.
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01-22-2015, 09:45 PM
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#23
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,378
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Hi, today I bought my second tank of gas [regular ] and I now have my 1,000 miles break-in done. Getting anxious to tow with it.
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Bob 2005 Safari 25-B
"Le Petit Chateau Argent" Small Silver Castle
2000 Navigator / 2014 F-150 Eco-Boost / Equal-i-zer / P-3
YAMAHA 2400 / AIR #12144
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01-23-2015, 03:50 PM
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#24
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Streamliner
2006 19' Safari SE
Santee
, California
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 245
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramble On
2012 Ecoboost max trailer 3.73:
We took a trip out west last September and went north on US 163 thru Monument Valley. As I recall the road grade before you get into Mexican Hat was really steep. 13%?. Truck did magnificently in a driving rainstorm. The tow/haul mode worked great even though I had a death grip on the steering wheel.
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I drove that grade last spring... I totally agree it's pretty wicked going downhill and towing.
Mark,
The path not taken is the one I take.
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Mj: "I'm on the road again"
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01-23-2015, 03:58 PM
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#25
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
Saint Augustine
, Florida
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 569
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We tow our 25 AS with a 2014 F150 Ecoboost with Max tow and HD payload. Anxious to try it in the mountains, but very happy so far.
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WBCCI# 5248
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01-23-2015, 04:07 PM
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#26
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari
St. Augustine
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 2,670
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I am like you Robert, haven't yet as I don't have an ecoBEAST yet but one consideration is that there is a significant difference in those towing with pre-2015 models as the trucks are around 700 lbs heavier! That would have a definite impact on towing/torque power. As others have stated, that engine is a beast with very low torque RPM and lots of power. The only cutoff I believe would be tongue weight/payload and planned cargo for someone. The new F150 adds all that extra weight of the older models to its payload rating which is around 2100 or so on the regular tow pkg. That is a lot for what is called a 1/2 ton truck. Won't pull a heavy 5th wheel but just about any Airstream. It all comes down to how much truck stuff, people and tongue weight. The towing power is not in question.
The double-tap on the brakes uses the tranny to brake assist like the diesel. This is an electronic function since 2009.
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2022 Ford F150 PowerBoost Platinum w/7.2KW
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01-23-2015, 04:07 PM
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#27
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Streamliner
2006 19' Safari SE
Santee
, California
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 245
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IanPoulin
Nice troll attempt. It wont work
-- ian
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What exactly does that mean... Troll attempt?
Mark,
The path not taken is the one I take.
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01-23-2015, 08:24 PM
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#28
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,378
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Hi, so far, I have to admit that I'm surprised at the count. If I counted correctly. For trailers that are 25' or less, I counted 10. For trailers larger than 25' I counted 21. This makes me more anxious to see how my F-150 will tow my 25' Safari and compare it to what my Lincoln has done for ten years.
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Bob 2005 Safari 25-B
"Le Petit Chateau Argent" Small Silver Castle
2000 Navigator / 2014 F-150 Eco-Boost / Equal-i-zer / P-3
YAMAHA 2400 / AIR #12144
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01-23-2015, 08:35 PM
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#29
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Airstreamer in Training
2014 30' Flying Cloud
Tampa
, Florida
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 92
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I'm not sure I understand the reluctance to tow something larger than 25' with an F150. Some 30s are under 7000 lbs dry weight and under 900 lbs tongue weight, well within the specs of the F150. What am I missing?
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01-23-2015, 09:32 PM
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#30
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Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,319
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ZBoater
I'm not sure I understand the reluctance to tow something larger than 25' with an F150. Some 30s are under 7000 lbs dry weight and under 900 lbs tongue weight, well within the specs of the F150. What am I missing?
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The later models, especially the wide body models are much heavier, and also Airstream is notorious about stating tongue weights unrealistically low, like with no batteries, or propane. It's not uncommon for even a late model 25 footer to have a tongue weight in excess of 1000lbs.
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Steve
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01-23-2015, 09:45 PM
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#31
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Airstreamer in Training
2014 30' Flying Cloud
Tampa
, Florida
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 92
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Ok, well this is confusing. If they state "Hitch Weight (w/LP & w/o options, water & cargo) (lbs.) 880" then I can't rely on that?
And is the 10-15% of trailer weight = hitch weight rule of thumb not apply to Airstreams?
I'm guessing a WD hitch will address some of this, but you are right. If I exceed my payload by a couple thousand pounds, I could understand the concern. But I can't get to that big of a discrepancy with my math.
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2014 Airstream Flying Cloud 30' Recliner: Base weight 6422, GVWR 8800
2013 Cadillac Escalade Tow Vehicle: 6.2L, 403hp, 417 ft-lb., 4x2, 3.42 axle ratio, Max Payload 1573, Max Towing 8300.
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01-23-2015, 09:57 PM
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#32
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Rivet Master
2013 27' FB International
El Dorado Hills
, California
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 2,023
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My 27FB tongue weight with a Sherline scale was 900lbs. That's ready to go camping. Empty according to Airstream is 770lbs.
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01-23-2015, 10:09 PM
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#33
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Rivet Master
2013 28' Flying Cloud
Central
, Canada
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 1,082
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Interesting, so does your 900 LB include both propane tanks full? Also does it Include your hitch? I have always thought the 27 and 28' units were heavier than that. If they are not that's good news for me
Thanks
Doug
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01-23-2015, 10:36 PM
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#34
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3 Rivet Member
2012 27' Flying Cloud
Portland
, Oregon
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 126
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ROBERTSUNRUS
Hi, so far, I have to admit that I'm surprised at the count. If I counted correctly. For trailers that are 25' or less, I counted 10. For trailers larger than 25' I counted 21. This makes me more anxious to see how my F-150 will tow my 25' Safari and compare it to what my Lincoln has done for ten years.
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I'm eager to hear how it compares to your Lincoln, especially in mountain driving. Cascades? Siskiyous? Please keep us posted.
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2012 27' Flying Cloud FB (Bella)
2014 F-150 3.5L Ecoboost
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01-23-2015, 10:48 PM
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#35
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,378
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Climber
I'm eager to hear how it compares to your Lincoln, especially in mountain driving.
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Hi, I am too; My Lincoln's 300 ponies probably drops to about 200 ponies in the high mountains. A super charged, turbo'd, or blown engine is supposed to hold it's horse power. So let's say I might be comparing 200 horse power to 365 horse power when I go back to Colorado. I thought that the Colorado mountains were going to kill my Lincoln, but my Lincoln proved to be tough. I'm just as concerned about engine drag going down those hills. Driving single my Lincoln seems to have a lot more engine drag than my F-150.
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Bob 2005 Safari 25-B
"Le Petit Chateau Argent" Small Silver Castle
2000 Navigator / 2014 F-150 Eco-Boost / Equal-i-zer / P-3
YAMAHA 2400 / AIR #12144
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01-24-2015, 08:21 AM
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#36
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari
St. Augustine
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 2,670
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My 27FB tongue weight with a Sherline scale was 900lbs. That's ready to go camping. Empty according to Airstream is 770lbs.
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My Airstream company Safari 25' stated tongue weight is 860 lbs.; however, my CAT scale weight is 990lbs.
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2022 Ford F150 PowerBoost Platinum w/7.2KW
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01-24-2015, 04:46 PM
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#37
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Rivet Master
2013 27' FB International
El Dorado Hills
, California
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 2,023
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arcticfox
Interesting, so does your 900 LB include both propane tanks full? Also does it Include your hitch? I have always thought the 27 and 28' units were heavier than that. If they are not that's good news for me
Thanks
Doug
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Full propane tanks. Stuff under the bed, in the front storage area. In the front overhead etc. Weighed at the campground using a friends scale. Not including the hitch.
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01-24-2015, 06:35 PM
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#38
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Full time Airstreamer
2014 30' FB FC Bunk
Anywhere
, USA Living.Somewhere.Yonder
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,359
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Quote:
Originally Posted by paiceman
Use to tow a 25' FC with a Ford F150 EcoBoost, terrific for that size trailer, but would not go any larger, at least for me. Payload, brakes et all. I did tow a 30' AS with it when we first got the 30' and did not like the overall performance.
Bud
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What year and final drive f150?
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01-24-2015, 06:45 PM
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#39
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Full time Airstreamer
2014 30' FB FC Bunk
Anywhere
, USA Living.Somewhere.Yonder
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,359
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rodsterinfl
I am like you Robert, haven't yet as I don't have an ecoBEAST yet but one consideration is that there is a significant difference in those towing with pre-2015 models as the trucks are around 700 lbs heavier! That would have a definite impact on towing/torque power. As others have stated, that engine is a beast with very low torque RPM and lots of power. The only cutoff I believe would be tongue weight/payload and planned cargo for someone. The new F150 adds all that extra weight of the older models to its payload rating which is around 2100 or so on the regular tow pkg.
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Are you sure about that payload figure? I emailed a dealer earlier today and asked them to give me the payload off a max tow 2015 f150 crew cab. was 1777 lbs.
That's very close to my 2012 crew cab with the 5.0 v8.
This is the 2015.
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01-24-2015, 08:33 PM
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#40
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4 Rivet Member
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Bozman
, Maryland
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 294
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If you check the Ford website, I think you will find crew cab combinations in excess of 7000 lbs. GVWR that are available. For example 20" wheels and tires are usually rated for less capacity than 18 inches. But they look cooler, so the dealers order them. I'm pretty convinced that the typical 1/2 ton buyer isn't too concerned about carrying a ton of stuff in the bed or towing 10,000 lbs.
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