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Old 02-26-2010, 06:31 PM   #15
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The EX also came with 4.30's like mine and get better mileage then the 3.73's. With my V10 I get 11 towing at 60 mpg. We didn't buy the used diesel because it was $5000.00 more and we would have needed to go 72,000 miles before breaking even. Also the $100.00 oil changes every 3000 miles put us off. You might consider a V10 and save yourself thousands. The modular ford engines love high rpm's and we go right up Wolf Creek Pass like its not there.

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Old 02-26-2010, 08:23 PM   #16
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I think the Ford is much more truck than the Dodge.

MTBO on the 7.3 is 250k miles. On the Cummins it is 350k miles. (Mean Time Between Overhauls; industry average, all users). The Ford has more comfortable seats.

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Old 02-26-2010, 08:34 PM   #17
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I'd try to get a little better price on it if you can.. The mileage isn't a concern at all, I've got 205,000 on my 7.3, the majority of them pulling my 34 foot limited. Have replaced the belt and batteries and glow plugs, truck still runs like new..The oil leak sounds like the HPOP oil rings a simple repair.
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Old 02-27-2010, 09:18 AM   #18
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REDNAX, what or who is the source of your data relative to MTBO? Thanks.
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Old 02-27-2010, 10:27 AM   #19
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The X is a glorious TV, and the 7.3 reigns supreme. I had one diesel mechanic, who worked on a lot of diesel, told me the 7.3 normally came in for a "tune up" at about 500k. Other than the noise compared to newer, this X with a 7.3 is generally a great machine. I threw a roof rack on mine to carry bikes and firewood etc. - awesome.
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Old 02-27-2010, 11:51 AM   #20
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That sounds like a lot of money. I traded in a 2000 Excursion 4x4 7.3 liter on my current F-150 in the summer of 2008. It had 157,000 miles.

I do admit that the engine was very, very good and I long for the days of 14+ mpg towing and 22 mpg unloaded. I never had any trouble with the engine except for the $19 glow plug relay.

However, at 8 years old everything else was starting to show its age. The tailgate stopped locking, window switches stopped working, the rear differential started getting louder. I had upper and lower ball joints replaced at 100,000 miles and they were already starting to rattle at 150,000. 4x4 vacuum engagement no longer functioned, then 4x4 front hubs seized requiring replacement. Big bucks.

I just couldn't justify that kind of money just to have the 7.3 liter. Besides that, the Excursion wasn't that great of a tow vehicle. I had to add a Helwig rear sway bar to help make up for the soccer mom rear springs that caused rear end steer. The OEM brake rotors are so bad that most people resorted to a PowerSlot variety.

The steering was always sloppy even after a new box and repeated tuning. I had to constantly make adjustments to keep the combination between the lines and that is really exhausting on long towing days.

So again, I can't see spending that much money on an old Excursion. The engine may last forever, but you'll get nickeled and dimed by the rest of the truck. I'm much more pleased with the way the F-150 handles the Airstream. Towing with it is a pleasure.
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Old 02-27-2010, 12:10 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by TinLoaf View Post

However, at 8 years old everything else was starting to show its age.
Based on your long list of issues I guess I don't understand why some folks report "The X is a glorious TV"?????

Sure they seem to have a great engine but all the other negatives sure take away from the glory thing,

I guess the issue is the lack of similar vehicles to compare. Vehicles that can haul a load and still carry a family of four plus gear.
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Old 02-27-2010, 05:54 PM   #22
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Most people give up on their vehicles long before 200k miles for the reasons TinLoaf suggested. I am skeptical of claims of 300k trouble free miles with only fluid changes. The fact is things wear out and you have to be proactive in repairing and replacing them. I think the engine, transmission and body integrety of an Excursion is way better than average but there are lots of other things on your Excursion to repair or replace.
A ten year old Excursion owned by someone else is a project; before you volunteer for it you need to ask yourself some questions.
1. Repairs are always more than you think. The former owner has most likely let things slide anticipating sale of the vehicle. The question is are you willing to spend 5k or more on a vehicle worth 10k?
2. Do you have an independent mechanic that is both skilled and trustworthy?
3. Are you willing to take your new to you vehicle in for repairs several times to get it right?
4. Are you willing to face the possibility of having your vehicle towed behind a wrecker and being seriously inconvenienced?
If the answer to all these questions is yes, go for it.
The payoff is that you get a vehicle that is not made anymore, that is very good at towing heavy trailers and carrying lots of things and people and is fairly economical doing all that. Once you get your Excursion to standard it will be almost as reliable as a newer vehicle
Whatever you spend on repairs will be much less than depreciation on a new vehicle.

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