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12-31-2018, 06:01 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2020 25' Globetrotter
Los Gatos
, California
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 415
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Durango R/T or Grand Cherokee Hemi
Looking to upgrade TV for new Sport 22 from Highlander Ltd AWD. It has been great with previous 16 and it tows the 22 fine with WD but lease is up and like more power for Sierra Nevadas and don’t want to lose payload or cargo. Truck ruled out due to garage and us as daily drive so large SUV under $50K new
Durango RT AWD has Hemi with 360 HP and 390 torque, 7200 tow. GVWR 7100 but that is from online that also gives 1412 to 1924 payload, so looking for Durango drivers to give real number and tow experience with this baby
GC is mostly the same vehicle I understand and would get Limited, 5.7 Hemi as well, with tow and 4X4 just like the Durango. CG looks like 1380 payload although I have seen post say it is less. Cargo is definitely less than Highlander or Durango butHP and torque should be about the same.
Like the look of the CG as well as resale so could handle the smaller cargo over Durango. Real payload between the two is important so any help appreciated
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12-31-2018, 07:17 PM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Walnut Creek
, California
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 3,952
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Look again. The Durango did have a longer wheelbase. That is good and bad. You need to test drive to determine best for you.
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12-31-2018, 07:43 PM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
2019 27' Tommy Bahama
London
, Ontario
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,347
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The Durango is a more stable tow vehicle than the GC but the Jeep is a better off road vehicle.
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Andrew Thomson London, Ontario
"One test is worth a thousand expert opinions." Tex Johnston, Boeing 707 test pilot
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01-01-2019, 08:34 AM
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Rivet Master
2018 27' International
Southeastern MI
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 2,344
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I towed a 19’ with a GC, it was fine. Only shortcomings were the mirrors (needed extensions and were barely adequate even with them) and the pentastar six was light on power. Do yourself a favor, get the Hemi.
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2018 International Serenity 27' FB
Michelin 16” tires
Hensley Arrow hitch
Tow Vehicle: 2020 F-350 6.7L Diesel
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01-01-2019, 09:43 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2009 34' Classic
Lake Worth Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 387
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Every current generation Jeep Grand Cherokee I’ve seen comes stickered with a max payload of 1,050 lbs., regardless of what the actual vehicle weight vs. GVWR is. That’s likely not a big problem with your Sport 22, unless you like to load up your TV with a lot of gear. I don’t know what the Durango’s max payload is.
The JGC pulled my 25FB beautifully but the payload was way over 1,050 when loaded up for camping, so we upgraded to a bigger TV.
I’d love to tell you to get the EcoDiesel engine in the Jeep but my experience with catastrophic engine failure at 25K miles, and reading similar stories of so many others, makes it impossible for me to recommend the engine. Too bad, because when it works it’s a wonderful drive train for towing and the fuel economy is fantastic.
Jim
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WBCCI 1433
🌴 Palm Beach County, FL 🌴
Silver Meteor - 2009 Airstream Classic Limited 34
2016 RAM 2500 Laramie Crew Cab 4x4, Cummins TurboDiesel
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01-01-2019, 10:19 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1996 25' Excella
Midland
, Ontario
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 33
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Our TV is a '16 Durango V6 (290 hp - 260 pd/ft ) with the 8 spd transmission for our '96 25' AS. Tow rating @ 6200 #. This will no doubt illicit numerous responses to the age old TV debates.
We purchased the Durango vs the GC because we felt it was roomier and less expensive. Over the past 24 mo's we've towed approx 30,000 km (20,000 mi) throughout the eastern / southern US as well as across Canada to Oregon and back. We've virtually encountered all terrains without any issues whatsoever. Ours is equipped with paddle shifters and only once did we have to drop it to 3rd gear near Yellowstone. The hitch work was done in Canada at Can Am RV which is an important element to the whole towing package.
Your choices with the equipped Hemi's will obviously be more than adequate but quite frankly unnecessary. This is our go to vehicle so the gas mileage is important (although with current pricing it's not that big of a deal...for now !!)
Good luck as both vehicles are great !
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01-01-2019, 12:45 PM
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Rivet Master
1998 36' Land Yacht Widebody
Shepherdstown
, West Virginia
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 802
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I had a 2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee with diesel engine that was made by the Germans at Damler Chrysler. It was fantastic up till the engine developed an oil leak that got into the coolant system. No one would touch it at 137k miles. It would tow anything.....but I used it behind my diesel Airstream.
Hope they can improve those engines....would enjoy having another.
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01-01-2019, 02:16 PM
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Rivet Master
2018 28' International
Fayetteville
, Georgia
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 829
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Check the payload, as you are already doing. That is where many vehicles come up short. Remember to add the weight of all occupants and gear, as well as hitch weight. Check out the new Expedition, as well.
brick
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brick
2018 International Serenity
Cute wife...
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01-01-2019, 03:10 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2016 25' Flying Cloud
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
Currently Looking...
Nashville
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 46
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We just bought a new Durango GT Blacktop RWD with the v-6 (295 hp) and the factory installed tow package...which did take some searching to find one with that tow package. We plan to tow our smaller Argosy Minuet 6-meter with it when I'm done with the restoration of that little Argosy. Our 2016 FC 25' FB we tow with a GMC 2500 Duramax diesel. I like to have a bit of overkill in my TVs, as I've found that marginal rated towing "capacity" is just that..."marginal". Give yourself some breathing room in your choice of TV and you won't regret it!
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2016 Flying Cloud 25 FB with stern mounted Fiammia Bike rack. TV is 2006 LBZ GMC 2500HD with Gale Banks Engineering engine package. 40 gallon Aux. diesel tank. Front maneuvering hitch. Rancho XL shocks. WBCCI 5173
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01-01-2019, 03:17 PM
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
1995 34' Excella
Lynchburg
, Virginia
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,226
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I have not owned either, but I believe both are good TV. I like the Durango interior more but that is personal preference.I would go for the Durango because the wheel base is longer and it has more room. Now the Durango resale doesn’t look as good as the GC, so I would go after a Durango low mileage 16 or 17 model. I would also go for the 2wd model as the payload is probably higher and the highway mileage is 3 mpg better for the 6 cylinder.
Good luck, Dan
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01-01-2019, 04:46 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 25' Flying Cloud
Cuddebackville
, New York
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 4,343
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I've towed our 25' FC with our Durango Citadel Hemi (with tow package) for five seasons, New York to Oregon, BC, Quebec and a lot in between. We have no regrets and it's also a great daily driver.
Our FC weighs 6600lbs, loaded for travel. I've weighed it with everything in the car as well and everything was within limits.
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2014 25' Flying Cloud Rear Twin
2019 Ford Expedition Platinum
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01-01-2019, 06:05 PM
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Retired Navy Submariner
1993 25' Excella
Ellicott City
, MD
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 37
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I am in the Aprilrivet camp and offer my recent experience. Bought a 25 ft in Oct and towed it home and a couple short trips with a Chevy Silverado 1500. Got assistance from CanAm and had my 2015 MB ML 350 factory hitch strengthened. Towed 800 miles today down I-95 and it towed like a dream. I had the MB for a few months before the airstream and like it. As a CPO vehicle, similar to Durango, it was $32K out the door. It was a sweet ride today and I have plans for many more.
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01-01-2019, 06:26 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 25' Flying Cloud
Cuddebackville
, New York
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 4,343
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I towed my 20’ with a ML. I had two of them and loved them. That’s why I went to the Durango when I wanted something larger. It was designed when Mercedes owner Chrysler and is the same platform.
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2014 25' Flying Cloud Rear Twin
2019 Ford Expedition Platinum
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01-01-2019, 08:44 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2018 22' Sport
WINSTON SALEM
, North Carolina
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 9
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Garfish
Looking to upgrade TV for new Sport 22 from Highlander Ltd AWD. It has been great with previous 16 and it tows the 22 fine with WD but lease is up and like more power for Sierra Nevadas and don’t want to lose payload or cargo. Truck ruled out due to garage and us as daily drive so large SUV under $50K new
Durango RT AWD has Hemi with 360 HP and 390 torque, 7200 tow. GVWR 7100 but that is from online that also gives 1412 to 1924 payload, so looking for Durango drivers to give real number and tow experience with this baby
GC is mostly the same vehicle I understand and would get Limited, 5.7 Hemi as well, with tow and 4X4 just like the Durango. CG looks like 1380 payload although I have seen post say it is less. Cargo is definitely less than Highlander or Durango butHP and torque should be about the same.
Like the look of the CG as well as resale so could handle the smaller cargo over Durango. Real payload between the two is important so any help appreciated
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Another large SUV under $50K new is a Tahoe 4WD. The 5.3-Liter EcoTec3 V8 Aluminum block with direct injection delivers 355 hp @ 5600 rpm with 383 lb.-ft. of torque @ 4100 rpm. Has 6-speed transmission. The Max Trailering Package includes Auxilliary transmission cooling, Trailer brake controller and the Towing capacity is 8400 lbs. Good luck with your purchase.
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Sport22Geo
2018 Sport 22FB
2018 Chevrolet Tahoe
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01-02-2019, 10:00 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2018 25' International
chino hills
, California
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 154
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2014 Dodge Durango Citadel Hemi . Luxury and the ability to pull our first Airstream a 2016 22 foot Bambi. When we added our second dog we knew we needed a more space. Now we’re pulling it with the 2018 25 International serenity. The Dodge Durango has a pool and capacity of 7300. Pulls like a dream. 14 miles to the gallon isn’t bad also. Congratulations on joining the Airstream community. Now join one of thevclubs in your area . Greatest group of people. Let the adventure begin. Also if you need any tweaking to customize it for yourself. In our 25 we had ultimate Airstream make it our airstream dream. They are in Oregon. Not sure where you’re located. But if you’re coming through their area I wouldn’t hesitate to have them do any customization. They also will give you an Airstream to continue your travel while they’re doing your work. Check them out on their website. And if you’re wondering no I don’t work for them. But they did customize our Airstream into our Airstream dream. Congratulations again. Hope to see you down the road.
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01-02-2019, 11:45 AM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
2019 27' Tommy Bahama
London
, Ontario
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,347
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam George
Another large SUV under $50K new is a Tahoe 4WD. The 5.3-Liter EcoTec3 V8 Aluminum block with direct injection delivers 355 hp @ 5600 rpm with 383 lb.-ft. of torque @ 4100 rpm. Has 6-speed transmission. The Max Trailering Package includes Auxilliary transmission cooling, Trailer brake controller and the Towing capacity is 8400 lbs. Good luck with your purchase.
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The Tahoe doesn’t actually handle or perform as well as the Durango. Unfortunately the Tahoe wheelbase is shorter with the same overhang, taller centre of gravity, live axle rear suspension instead of independent suspension and 6 vs 8 gears though you would think the 10 speed should arrive soon.
Larger interior though.
Andy
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Andrew Thomson London, Ontario
"One test is worth a thousand expert opinions." Tex Johnston, Boeing 707 test pilot
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01-02-2019, 01:45 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2020 25' Globetrotter
Los Gatos
, California
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 415
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew T
The Tahoe doesn’t actually handle or perform as well as the Durango. Unfortunately the Tahoe wheelbase is shorter with the same overhang, taller centre of gravity, live axle rear suspension instead of independent suspension and 6 vs 8 gears though you would think the 10 speed should arrive soon.
Larger interior though.
Andy
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Thanks, Andy
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2016 450 GL, EazLift Elite 1000
Renogy 400 watts and 100 suitcase, 30/100MPPT, Victron 712, 6V Duracells
Honda 2200 propane, Weboost Drive X, EEZ TMS
Traded in 2016 Sport 16, 2019 Sport 22
As they say, third AS is what to buy first
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01-06-2019, 06:09 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2020 25' Globetrotter
Los Gatos
, California
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 415
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Found a great GL 450 to replace my Highlander. Hitch receiver 2 inches lower so assume I just adjust the Husky. Asked dealer if this means new tv and TT to them to adjust or is it something I can do. Advice?
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01-06-2019, 09:10 PM
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
1995 34' Excella
Lynchburg
, Virginia
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,226
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Glad that you found a replacement for your Highlander. Photo of the new TV please.
Dan
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01-06-2019, 11:10 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2020 25' Globetrotter
Los Gatos
, California
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 415
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Be here Tuesday
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