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Old 01-14-2014, 09:28 AM   #15
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My Yukon XL is a 3/4 ton. The Allison Trans required a slight body lift so my truck sits up pretty high - just like the one in the video. Taking it to the shop to get a few more motor tweeks done to give it more power and durability.

I will get photos posted when it comes back.
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Old 01-14-2014, 10:01 AM   #16
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I talked to the Duraburb folks in September 2013 and said they would put a Duramax LML engine into either a 2500 Suburban or a 1500 Suburban, whatever the customer has. Obviously one big difference between the two is the suspension and payload capacity. If you go the route of putting Duramax engine into a 1500, there are some states that will not allow registration of the vehicle (because you have put a heavy duty engine into a vehicle with a VIN that identifies it as a light duty vehicle or something like that). So you can register it in Ohio (currently) but not California. Since I plan to hold a vehicle for 10 years, I didn't want to take the risk that laws would change or I would move to make registration impossible. The Duraburb folks were very honest in telling me all of this. They said if I wanted to avoid that risk, I should pick a 2500 Suburban. That was one factor that dissuaded me from the Duraburb - the 2500 Surburans are not as plentiful in the used car market as the 1500's are. So instead I bought a 2500 GMC Sierra with the Duramax, bought the 2014 model because I liked the exterior looks and interior better than the new 2015 redesign that will be available in 2014. I bought my truck in October, if you buy today I don't know if you get the 2014 or 2015 model.
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Old 03-08-2014, 07:59 AM   #17
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I stopped by to see the DuraBurb folks in Apopka, Florida to see how they do the conversions. 4 - 5 people were very busy on the current project(s). There were focusing on a Suburban and I think they had two H2 Hummers in the garage too.

I did not realize that most (if not all) conversions are for 4WD Suburbans. I think the reason is that most of the donor trucks are 4WD so it makes sense to keep the 4WD aspect of the drivetrain. I suspect you could do the conversion on a 2WD Suburban but the donor vehicle would have to be 2WD also.

I'm surprised how much DuraBurb has to pay for a donor truck. Even trucks that are totaled, smashed, banged-up, pieces of rubble are many $$$$ so that affects the price of the conversion. I guess if you're a horse-trader you could come to them with both the Suburban and the donor truck and that would cut your cost dramatically. Something to consider.

Eric at DuraBurb took a few minutes to explain what's involved in the conversion. Some of the work is obvious, some is not. Radiators, transmission coolers, linkages, dashboard, body parts are some of the visible changes. Then there is all the wiring.... Diesels have different sensors than gasoline engines. Suburbans have different wiring compared to trucks. Engine Control Modules, Body Control Modules and lots of other things have to be rewired and reprogrammed. Some vehicles have heated seats, some don't. Some have power extended mirrors some don't. Suburbans have rear heat and A/C, trucks usually don't. My head started to hurt! This is definitely not a shadetree mechanic project.

Somewhat by chance I purchased a used 2005 Suburban K2500 recently. If the DuraBurb folks are still around in a few years maybe I'll consider the conversion.

Until then, I hope the DuraBurb guys and gals are successful and continue to build this unique vehicle.
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Old 03-08-2014, 09:37 AM   #18
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I heard FORD is putting a diesel in their Expedition EL

that would almost make it a decent SUV, almost.
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Old 03-08-2014, 11:27 AM   #19
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Wouldn't that be basically a 1/2 ton Ezcursion?
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Old 03-08-2014, 12:02 PM   #20
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The Duramax Suburban is a very interesting concept. I've been looking at it, off and on, for the last several years.

I have had three 2500 Suburbans since 2000. The last two have been Quadrasteers. I still have the 2005 Yukon XL 2500 (Olivia) which is both four wheel drive and four wheel steering. I refer to her as a 4x4x4.

Olivia is still one of our active tow vehicles. She brought Lucy over to Jacksonville on the current trip that we are on.

We also have another tow vehicle named Fred. He a 2011 Chevrolet 3500 four wheel drive Duramax.

Having both these tow vehicles at the same time, I can see a great advantage in having a Duramax Suburban.

I think that it would be really neat to have a four wheel drive, four wheel steering Duramax Suburban.

We had already decided that when Olivia wears out, we were going to replace her a 2500 short bed Duramax pick-up. Olivia is currently closing in on 140,000 miles.

Under these circumstances, it may be feasible and cost effective to consider making Olivia into a DuraBurb.

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Brian and Lucius,
Other than hauling more ppl in comfort, what are the advantages of a Dura 'Burb over our nice LTZ? There are only the two of us, usually.
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We currently have two tow vehicles. One is the 2005 Suburban 2500 4x4x4. The other is the 2011 Silverado 3500 Duramax. We like both, but would sure like to have a diesel SUV.

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Brian and Lucius,
Other than hauling more ppl in comfort, what are the advantages of a Dura 'Burb over our nice LTZ? There are only the two of us, usually.
It certainly comes down to personal preference. I like Suburbans for a variety of reasons but I'm sure I could live with a quad-cab truck.

I like a Suburban for various reasons. Interior access to the rear area is first on my list - unlike a truck. People carrying capacity, as you said, but we don't use that often - a quad-cab would certainly work reasonably well.

The lack of a diesel and it's advantages (even if perceived rather than actual) is frustrating. For instance, I want the added braking that comes with a diesel. I want the added transmission/gears that come with the Duramax/Allison although that may soon be a thing of the past with added transmissions from GM. I want the added fuel mileage although I realize diesel costs more so the $$ may be about the same.

In general, I like Suburbans and I wish GM would put a Duramax in my favorite tow vehicle.

When I started this thread I did it for a few reasons - some mentioned above - and because I thought the DuraBurb was a very cool home-grown solution to a problem. I still find it amazing that a few guys in a little shop in Apopka, Florida are doing this.
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There is another potential path to a diesel Suburban, although I am unaware if the aftermarket has swung into gear yet. When the Excursion stopped production, the aftermarket began producing them from newer pickups and Excursion sheet metal. They often call them XUVs. I became aware of them when I saw an F650 pickup conversion with Cat diesel power.

This company will produce a 4 or 6 door custom Excursion on a 2011+ F250 or F350. They will even make a Raptor Excursion based on an F150. They also produce a six door three row crew cab pickup. When GM stops producing factory 2500 Suburbans the same sort of product may be available.

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Is DuraBurb still in business?
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I went internet searching for Duraburb recently and could not locate them.

Supercharging is an interesting alternative -- I did this to my 2001 6-liter Denali 25,000 mostly-towing miles ago and it has been trouble-free. The towing performance is remarkable with about 500hp and 500 torque.

Here is a LINK to my supplier: Silverado 2014 5.3L Direct Injection Radix Supercharger - Magnuson Products, LLC

Another option: Callaway offers a supercharged version of the pickup and SUV through Chevy dealers: Callaway Silverado/Callaway Sierra
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Duraburb is indeed still in business but they are severely backed up. We had a Jan 18 appointment to have our Suburban upgraded to a Duramax. They called and said the earliest they could get to us was mid February. We canceled and they refunded our deposit. They don't have a website. Send me a PM and I will give you the sales persons name and phone number.
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