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03-30-2010, 02:05 AM
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1972 31' Sovereign
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Dually Tire Rotation
We have a 2003 Dodge diesel dually 3500, 4x4. This is our first dually truck, we have had just regular 4 tire vehicles before. It's time to replace some of the tires (inner rear). Do most follow the manufacturer recommended pattern? Is there any problem with only replacing the inners and not the outer rear at the same time. The tire guy at our local Americas Tire told us we should replace all 4 at the same time, but I'm thinking he just wants to sell tires. Is there any logical reasoning to this? Since the recommended rotation pattern is fronts cross pattern to rear inner, and rear outers swap with each other.
Any advice or experience in this would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Mary
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03-30-2010, 05:17 AM
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Replace the worn out tires, and put them on the front, and rotate the front tires to their designated points in the rotation. If some wheels are steel and some aluminum, this could create a very interesting "wax on, wax off" thing during rotating. If not all the wheels are the same, you'll have to take the tires off the wheels, remount them and rebalance them, in order to rotate them where they need to go. I hope that's not the case.
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03-30-2010, 05:56 AM
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if there is a big difference in height (old tire vs. new tire) the new tires will carry more weight than the old tires. that's a valid reason for buying 4 tires. make the best match possible.
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03-31-2010, 06:45 PM
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I stopped rotating the tires on my dually after the first rotation. One reason was that the front tires would "cup" on the outside no matter what I did - making them unsatisfactory for further use (---even as duals.) By 60,000 miles I was getting ready to replace the front tires for the third time when I came across the new Goodyear "steering" tires - similar in construction and tread design to those offered for commercial tractor-trailer rigs. Since then (72,000 miles) the wear on the front tires is perfect across the tread - as is the wear pattern for the duals, which are the original tires! It appears that I could still get another 10,000 miles out of the duals, but out of consideration for their age I plan to replace them this summer. With further respect to the front tires, like other commercial tires, when they get 35,000 miles or so on them they can be "regrooved" and go another 35,000. That helps to justify their cost!
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03-31-2010, 06:56 PM
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I don't rotate anymore on the mo/ho and get 80K out of them. I used to have "cupping" problems on the fronts: got the springs replaced and front end aligned; end of problem.
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04-04-2010, 10:02 PM
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1972 31' Sovereign
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Thanks for the replies so far!
I'm sure there's plenty more of you dually truck owners out there.
Please post your advice for us Newbie dually owners!
Thanks, Mary
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04-04-2010, 11:06 PM
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Hi, my one and only dually was my Mac Tools truck. I always did a six tire rotation and always replaced all six tires at the same time. [keeps everything even] Kind of hard to explain how I rotated my tires, but here goes.
(1.) Left rear duals crossed and moved to the front so turning in same direction.
(2.) Right rear duals moved the the left rear, turning in same direction. This means the right outer dual became the left inner dual and the right inner dual became the left outer dual.
(3.) The front tires were crossed and installed on the right rear so as to be turning in the same direction.
This was done every five thousand miles. Note: all wheels were the same and painted white; And needed a lot of cleaning for their new positions.
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04-05-2010, 01:31 AM
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2004 30' Classic
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I haven't rotated the tires on my 2008 Ford F450 yet, after 2 years and 18,000 miles. However, my front tires are a different size than the rear ones, so I'd only rotate side to side rather than front to back. I haven't noticed any difference in wear patterns so far, but will probably rotate the tires this spring before we head out on the road just to be on the safe side.
You didn't say how old your tires were, but unless they were less than 5 years old, if they were mine I would seriously consider replacing them regardless of mileage and remaining tread life (look at sidewalls for signs of cracking or dry rot, for example, and follow manufacturer's recommendations for replacement).
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04-05-2010, 03:20 AM
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1980 31' Excella II
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ROBERTSUNRUS
Hi, my one and only dually was my Mac Tools truck. I always did a six tire rotation and always replaced all six tires at the same time. [keeps everything even] Kind of hard to explain how I rotated my tires, but here goes.
(1.) Left rear duals crossed and moved to the front so turning in same direction.
(2.) Right rear duals moved the the left rear, turning in same direction. This means the right outer dual became the left inner dual and the right inner dual became the left outer dual.
(3.) The front tires were crossed and installed on the right rear so as to be turning in the same direction.
This was done every five thousand miles. Note: all wheels were the same and painted white; And needed a lot of cleaning for their new positions.
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That is how I typically rotate mine on my F350, the D300 has mud grips in the back and street tread on the front, so no rotation.
I have also done a rotation where the outer duals were rotated to the front, front to the inner rear and inner rear to the outside rear, it depended on what was wearing and how. I use the stainless steel wheel covers so no worry with paint or dirt.
Aaron
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04-05-2010, 05:38 AM
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Wherever you decide to put the new tires, put them together. If you decide to leave them on the back, put them both on the same corner, right rear or left rear, as a pair, or both on the front.
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