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Old 06-12-2014, 12:22 PM   #57
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Is a Dodge with a cummins a good tow vehicle?
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I'd say the answer is yes. A couple stipulations though, the pre '98 models had some automatic trany issues, and the12 valve was/is louder.

Overall though it pulls great. I've pulled all my trailers all over the the west, from So. Cal through to the north to Washington, Idaho, Nevada, Utah, Wyoming. Never had a problem.

Since I do all my own maintenance, I know know what has been done correctly too. The only things that I have had pop up on me is the fuel filter, I wasn't towing at the time, and last week (literally the second of June this year) the water pump failed. It was a fifteen minute fix, but I had to wait for the engine to cool down.

Overall, great TV!
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Old 06-13-2014, 09:26 AM   #58
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OK, MYater, I'd like to know your technique for changing a water pump on the Cummins in 15 minutes … are you a NASCAR pit guy?

I helped my son change the water pump on his 5.9 and it took contortions that my body has not been in since a certain episode in college. I'm no longer a young man and I will gladly pay someone to do this for me if the need arises.
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Old 06-13-2014, 11:58 AM   #59
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OK, MYater, I'd like to know your technique for changing a water pump on the Cummins in 15 minutes … are you a NASCAR pit guy?
Since on the 5.9 there are only two bolts that hold the pump in place, you only have to free the sepentine belt with a half inch ratchet handle attached to the end of the tensioner pully, and the use a #10 hex socket to remove the bolts with a 3/8" ratchet handle with a 2" extension. Pull it up between the fan shroud and the fan on the passenger side. Reverse for install. But remember to use anti seize on the threads on the bolts going back together..

Mine failed at 157K miles. One of my CO workers failed at 155k about a month and a half ago. He he was more upset that he ended up having it towed home the next day and it took him about15 minutes as well.

Took five gallons of coolant to properly fill it back up though.
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Old 06-13-2014, 12:44 PM   #60
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These autos with more than 4 speeds are not performance enhancers, they are used to try to make MPG requirements.
Having a lower first gear is absolutely a performance enhancement. Having better gear spacing for just the right gear in the mountains is a performance enhancement. Having a higher top gear for better MPG is just a bonus. Any 4 speed is going to have a hard time competing with a modern 6 speed even if they did have the same engine.
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I used to really enjoy driving my 13 speed equipped KW.

I seldom used low, and routinely skipped many gears in the upper range even with an engine with a really narrow torque band. (About 1,400 rpm to 2,100 rpm)

I honestly doubt we would have six and eight speed automatics if it were not for CAFE standards.
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Old 06-13-2014, 01:10 PM   #62
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J, why do you hate better gas milage so much? Joking, but there is a reason your KW has 13 gears, even if you don't need them all the time, no? I believe some of these 8 speeds can skip gears in certain situations. I was surprised how quick and crisp the gear shifting is on Chrysler's new 8 speed. With the higher run temps and fancy ATF the auto transmission drag penalty is on the decline also.
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I am not saying six, seven, and eight speeds are bad, but just making the point that most of their use by OEMs is probably to pick up an extra 1/10th of an MPG to meet the ever tightening CAFE standards.

The only time I might see one of these transmissions as bad is if a person had to pay for a replacement.

My bias shows through on issues like this. I used to be a "latest and greatest " kind of guy, I have changed into a "simpler is better" kind of person.

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Old 06-13-2014, 01:30 PM   #64
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I am not saying six, seven, and eight speeds are bad, but just making the point that most of their use by OEMs is probably to pick up an extra 1/10th of an MPG to meet the ever tightening CAFE standards.

The only time I might see one of these transmissions as bad is if a person had to pay for a replacement.

My bias shows through on issues like this. I used to be a kind of guy, I have changed into a "simpler is better" kind of person.

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Nowday's "latest and greatest " is too expensive all the way around.
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Old 06-13-2014, 03:24 PM   #65
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Tell me about it, my current daily ride/tow vehicle has (gasp) roll up windows....

New in 08 it cost less than 1/3 the price of many/most new trucks on the lots today.
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Old 06-13-2014, 03:35 PM   #66
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I bought my "2004 1/2" Ram brand new (they made a bunch of changes mid year) when the 2005's were coming out during Dodge Days in the summer of 2004. Have been very happy with it.

Mine is rated at 305hp, 555 ft-lbs of torque, and has the 4-speed "heavy duty" transmission. That year, you could get a "regular" or a "Heavy Duty" tranny. Not sure what the differences are, but I wanted it specifically for towing. I got the truck before the trailer(s), so wanted something I could pull a big 5er with.

I pull a 34 foot triple axle now that weighs about 5 tons. I've never met a hill I couldn't accelerate up.

Running at 70-75mph on the slab, I get about 12mpg towing. If I can slow it down to 55mph, I get close to 15mpg towing.

I got as high as 22mpg with it prior to 2007 when the diesel fuel had more sulfur in it. Now I get about 20 running empty. But still, it's a long bed, 4-door, 4 wheel drive, heavy duty truck. With a gas engine, it'd probably be lucky to see 15mpg running empty.

I've been very happy with it. No problems whatsoever to data.

I have towed our trailer thousands of miles with this truck and been very pleased with it. I've also pulled a utility trailer that weighed over 13,000lbs and it pulled it just fine.

My two cents....the Cummins powered Ram is a good truck.

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OK, MYater, I'd like to know your technique for changing a water pump on the Cummins in 15 minutes … are you a NASCAR pit guy?

I helped my son change the water pump on his 5.9 and it took contortions that my body has not been in since a certain episode in college. I'm no longer a young man and I will gladly pay someone to do this for me if the need arises.
It depends on the year.From 89 to 2004 they were very fast and easy to change.In 05 the shroud design was changed and made it more difficult.I can tell you no matter what year it will be tons easier than the powerstroke or duramax
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I have a 2008 Dodge 4X4 Crew Cab/ long bed, with the 6.7 Cummins and have towed about 40,000 miles with a total of 73,000 now. Love it in spite of some minor emission control issues. It has been side ways in a blizzard in Wyoming, pulled across the Rockies in summer. I get about 14 mpg at 60-65 mph.

The Cummins is the best engine IMO.
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Dodge with Cummins, Ram with Cummins, Ford with Scorpion, Chevy & GMC with Isuzu - all great 3/4-1 ton trucks with oil burners under the hood and payload capacity to tow any Airstream and it's contents.
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