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Old 08-18-2010, 12:54 PM   #71
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My experience is with Toyotas, but the principles are the same as far as cab size. Tundra has a standard, double and crewmax cab. The latter two have independent doors in the rear.

Our '02 Tundra has doors in the back that only opened when the front doors were open and that was a pain, especially in parking lots with narrow spaces or when it was raining and you just want to get the door open and closed fast. So, I'd avoid that kind of door set up if any other brands have them.

The crewmax cab, I believe (meaning it may have changed), does not have a medium or long bed. They don't want to build a longer wheelbase vehicle or have too much rear overhang for the crew cab.

Our double cab has plenty of space. The crewmax is enormous and seems to be too much (although not enough space for a moose). With a long bed, you have an even longer truck that will inhibit access to wilderness roads.

Another thing to look at—fuel tank capacity. Our Tundra has only a 26.3 gallon gas tank. That is not enough for towing. We could get a second tank in the bed that feeds to the OEM tank, but they cost something more than $1,200. With a camper you couldn't do that anyway. I think the Ford 150 gasser has about 10 gallons more capacity, for example. I know someone who bought the 150 instead of the Tundra just because of that difference.

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Old 08-18-2010, 02:40 PM   #72
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just went from a gmc sierra with a 6 1/2 foot box to a sierra crew cab with a 6 1/2 foot box. i was concerned about the added length. after driving the new truck for a month i can say i don`t even notice the extra length. the room in the crew cab is really nice too.
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Our 07 Duramax is a crew cab 6.6ft bed. The extra length prohibits it from fitting in our garage, but is comfortable for passengers, and seats in the back fold flat converting into a large, relatively high storage area with easy access from the back doors. Pulling our 88 25 ft A/S home from New Mexico a few days ago, I had a motorcycle in the bed and was able to store items I didn't want to get wet in the cab. Was very happy with the large quantity of items that fit in there.

BTW, another feature I like is that the roof isn't so high off the ground that the truck won't fit into covered parking garages. It isn't 4 wheel drive, don't know the clearance difference between the two. The new Ford F-250, especially 4wd looks like it is quite a bit higher than GMC. Optical illusion?
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I just bought a Ram 2500 Crew with the Cummings and the reason I did was two fold...

1. The Cummings is made by a diesel Engine manufacture.
2. Its the only one with an Exaust brake...

Your gonna be Heavy and I think the Exaust Brake you would appreciate in a down hill situation...

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Old 08-19-2010, 08:46 AM   #75
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OK, now y'all have me convinced that I should go with a diesel crewcab 4wd.

I am good with both Ford and GM. The thing that concerns me about Dodge is lack of a dealer network. We have traveled with Lucy extensively in somewhat remote areas of the United States. I have noticed that virtually every small town has a Ford and/or a Chevy dealer. Dodge dealers seem to be only in the bigger towns.

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2 of the 3 brands trimmed a LOT of dealers last year.

dodge especially cut a bunch that were in LESS populated/used locations or poor sales performers...

but the ramboys will remind us that ANY cummins shop can service the mota (which is rarely gonna breakdown neway) ...

it IS reassuring to see those blue oval signs overhead while travelin'...

but not every dealer/service center has a LEGITIMATE DIESEL certified mechanic.

and some dealers only have PART TIME diesel coverage in the back room.

there is a large network of indy' diesel repair shops, some are very large and some are at TRUCK stops...

they places can and do work on the powerstrokes especially ALL of the navistar built engines (7.3, 6.0, 6.4)

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We also take long trips (months) with a need for many day-or-two excursions away from the trailer, so have taken an interest in this thread.

How would a 4x4 diesel crewcab reconcile with the need for a daily runabout on a six month trip? (I often see some fifth wheel pullers followed by the spouse in the family sedan.) It seems to me the plan presented here is oversized and cumbersome, considering your (and our) purpose.

We recently moved from a VW Eurovan pop-top pulling a Suzuki Samurai to our Airstream, which was really great for exploring but not for the long-term. Can't seem to find a reasonable replacement.

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Old 08-19-2010, 12:23 PM   #78
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Brian,

The ultimate and less than elegant solution is a cargo plane with the Airstream and a truck with camper. You will fly in your private jet to various locations while your staff sets up the Airstream at an RV resort and picks you up in the truck or perhaps a Rolls Royce at the airport. Of course, for this kind of money, you could import mooses to Florida.

This may require you to be executives at Goldman Sachs where such craziness might be considered a normal solution.

Good luck at finding the happy medium.

We are going to camp on Grand Mesa for a couple of days. Several years ago they brought some mooses from North Park to Grand Mesa and they are doing well there, so maybe we'll see some.

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Researching the Flippac ,found www.Adventuretrailers.com
they have some great video's on outfitting a truck/camper setup. It might be extreme for some but it really look's neat.In the back of a 4x F150 (Etc.) it would be great for short trip's away from the trailer.I would use less than they show but would then have more storage space.Still have to figure how to carry Kayak's or get folding ones.
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We are planning to head out with Lucy on yet another great adventure. Right after Labor Day we will be heading to northern New Hampshire and Maine in pursuit of unsuspecting northeastern Mooses.

Along the way, we are going to go out on some of the unimproved roads in the Suburban, and we can hopefully get a feel for how we could use a truck camper.

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Researching the Flippac ,found www.Adventuretrailers.com
they have some great video's on outfitting a truck/camper setup. It might be extreme for some but it really look's neat.In the back of a 4x F150 (Etc.) it would be great for short trip's away from the trailer.I would use less than they show but would then have more storage space.Still have to figure how to carry Kayak's or get folding ones.
We have been looking at the Adventure Trailers and other flippacs. There is a lot of good info on Expedition Portal Forum - Powered by vBulletin. They have a lot of truck camper info and info on back country trips.

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Is the 2011 Airstream Avenue a viable option?

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I took a look at that. I didn't know that Airstream was doing GM vans as class B's. I looked at the specs. It will tow Lucy as it is rated for 7900#, but the max tongue weight is 800# which is a little shy of Lucy' 1130#. Also the the price tag of $96,000 is such that I could get a really nice diesel pick-up and a top of the line pop-up truck camper for $30,000 less.

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the tongue weight limitation is probably due to the receiver.

beefier receiver would provide more capacity.

but another problem with a B van conversion is that the living space is ALWAYS gonna be with the van...

at least a SLIDE IN camper shell can be SLID out to use the truck solo...

an older a/s b van built on the E-350 would work too and since it would be a LOT less expensive to purchase...

it shouldn't HURT so much using it JUST for these longer adventures.

but the b vans (old or new) aren't 4x4 as assembled by a/s.

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