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Old 12-26-2013, 10:20 AM   #15
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I just traded in my 2 wheel drive F150 for a Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.7 Hemi 4X4 Overland. I got stuck in wet grass and mud in my back yard a few times with the F150 so one of the requirements for the new truck was 4X4.
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Old 12-26-2013, 10:33 AM   #16
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On the other hand, 4x4 adds cost, weight, complexity and something else to break. A towing policy (Good Sam's, AAA) is a lot cheaper and no oil changes! It really is a question of convenience, if you do get stuck do you want out right now or are you willing to wait for the tow truck?

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Old 12-26-2013, 10:34 AM   #17
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I have 4x4 SUV used to tow with. Never needed 4wd for towing but have used it plenty once at destination and unhitched. I like to explore and not just the paved roads. Also, don't have to chain up when heading to the ski slopes. Mine has 4AWD in addition to 4H and 4L. 4AWD is very effective in snow.

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Old 12-26-2013, 10:40 AM   #18
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Actually used twice in 7 years when towing. But I really needed it those 2 times. Once in Yellowstone in deep gravel and once in Alaska in a muddy, slick detour. I have use it several times when not towing.
I do not think you really need it but I can not imagine buying a truck without it. Adds a little cost to maintain and makes the truck a little taller. You might get some of the cost back when you sell it. A stiff spring truck with a diesel engine in front is not a very capable machine in 2wd when it is slick.
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Old 12-26-2013, 11:16 AM   #19
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I have heard experienced people proclaim that they no longer need it or want it (added expense, weight, something else to maintain, break, etc)....but as said already, all this depends alot on the individual's use and preferences.

I park mine in back yard and ride over grass some....absolutely need 4x4 to prevent destroying my lawn...in 4x4 mode, I have backed it in now without slipping on grass, which will just destroy it quickly....

Plenty of stories from folks about how 4x4 helped them in a tight spot....so there is that....

Some say it is "good insurance to have"...some disagree....

I also use it to pull my little bass boat into odd places, primative "landings" etc....for me it is absolutely a no brainer..

If you need it, get it....if you *think* you need it but are not sure, or perhaps this would be an infrequent need if at all....then I suppose one would need to go through a pro's con's comparative analysis and make a decision YOU are comfortable with...

I will say this....I imagine for plenty of folks, given a certain budget and particular needs/desires....they do not "need" 4x4...

I wants it, and I needs it....
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Old 12-26-2013, 12:08 PM   #20
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As with all these things, it's a trade off. Four wheel drive may get you out of a hole occasionally but will always adversely affect your gas mileage. It'll suit some and not others I guess.

Do you need it? It depends!
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Old 12-26-2013, 12:26 PM   #21
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I think everyone pretty much covered all the important thoughts so I will just pile on my thoughts. I camp off the grid in BLM and Natl Forest and most are not paved roads and most are actually rough enough that you had better be in 4x4. I am also the belief better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. I'd go with a rig that is 2 wheel and can be switched into 4 wheel not a full time AWD. Also, another thought is that once I unhitch and set camp, I go exploring and you may need 4x4 in whatever forest you are exploring. If you are going to spend a chunk on a heavy duty set up, get off road capbility.
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Old 12-26-2013, 12:48 PM   #22
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I will most likely never get another truck, but if I do it WILL be 4WD. Period.
Once or twice stuck in wet grass, monkey grass, or loose gravel, or slimy mud is enough for me.
But, with 4 payments left and 32,000 miles I will probably just keep slippin' in monkey grass...
If you have a truck 15 years and 4WD saved you once or twice it was worth it. As it is, when I get stuck I'll hafta call PharmGeek to the rescue...
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Old 12-26-2013, 12:49 PM   #23
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I never was the "off-roading" type- as I can't see getting a $30,000+ truck dirty or scratched- I like a clean ride- but 4WD has more uses than off-roading.
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Old 12-26-2013, 01:06 PM   #24
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Being from the frozen north, I made the vow to never have 2wd ever again. And in addition to all of the advantages of 4X4, there's also the greater level of TESTOSTERONE
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One thing we all seem to agree on is wet grass is a problem
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Old 12-26-2013, 01:20 PM   #26
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What happens when I get stuck in my own yard on wet grass? Depends on where it is- if it is not in the way, leave it and try again in a day or so-
If it is in the way , call a friend with 4WD- it is amazing how effortlessly it idles out-
If I ever get another truck- it would have to be something extreme like a total wreck or house burns down and trucks goes with it or it is stolen and they never find it ...
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Four wheel drive may get you out of a hole occasionally but will always adversely affect your gas mileage.
My 2013 Ram Cummings 2500 disconnects the front drive shaft when driving in 2wd mode - I think this technology came from the Ram 1500's.

No more parasitic loss spinning stuff you don't need too when in 2wd. This feature on Ram's is called "Center Axel Disconnect" or "CAD".

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Old 12-26-2013, 02:37 PM   #28
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I would say if you can, get the 4x4. A lot depends on where you camp but I have had to put my truck in 4 wheel drive several times while trying to back into an uphill camp site. Loose gravel on the edge of the road and an uphill grade and as soon as the rear tires left the pavement they would spin. No way to get into the sites with 2 wheel drive. Push a button and engage 4 wheel drive and I backed up with zero problems. I have also had to use 4 wheel drive in wet grass!
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