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Old 10-02-2015, 07:47 AM   #29
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Crap fuel thanks to the EPA?

I wonder what the crap fuel would be like if it were left up to the oil refineries.
I left up to the refineries diesel fuel would still be good and there would be no reason to have additives except for cold weather operation. The EPA just makes living more expensive for the common man through its unfunded mandates.
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Old 10-02-2015, 08:06 AM   #30
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Impo, none! Unless the manufacturer of your engine requires it. Most are either an unnecessary waste of money or snake oil.
I'd agree with you for the most part. However, it is important to use fuel that has an HFRR of less than 350 for longevity of the high pressure fuel pump. The US standard is 520. If you are using an non biodiesel blend, I would use some type of additive to lower the HFRR of straight ULSD.

Here is a study from last winter showing diesel fuel quality worldwide.

https://www.infineum.com/media/80722...ull-screen.pdf
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Old 10-02-2015, 08:19 AM   #31
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I left up to the refineries diesel fuel would still be good and there would be no reason to have additives except for cold weather operation. The EPA just makes living more expensive for the common man through its unfunded mandates.
Well, that's one opinion. I don't share it though. I would bet it would be similar to the diesel in Kuwait with 1350 ppm of sulphur. That will get you big black clouds of soot from every diesel engine.

I have lived in places where there isn't an EPA like entity. Not good. I prefer to have clean air.
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Lance, perhaps I gave the short answer. My presumption was, of course, that one uses a known high quality fuel. I see fleets who use low bid and end up with issues sometimes.

And yes, a bio blend, (again presuming a quality blender/distributor) is really good stuff for lubricity. I did see a localized issue with bio 2 winters ago in Central Illinois. This was not due to "bean squeezins" but a quality spill at the blender...out of spec fuel got out.
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Stanadyne Lubricity, thank you. I also have some Fuerza Diesel Additive given to me by a friend (10 large bottles). Diesel
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If your truck uses DEF (all newer model diesels) and you use additives you will notice a increase in DEF usage. I pull loads of cabinets to West Texas with my Dodge Ram duelly and run hard for hours at a time only stopping to fillup from my aux tank with pump in the bed. I have used Power Service gray bottle and noticed little to no fuel mileage increase but way more DEF usage.

If your going to use additives stay below the recommended amount. These new trucks don't need that much of the stuff like the old ones. If I am running heavy BioDiesel I will run a little more than normal.

Winter I use the Power Service white bottle anti-gel. Saved my bacon more than once. Consider it like winterizing your trailers plumbing. Guys in the south might not think they need it but I got caught in single digit temps in West Texas before.

These newer diesels are a whole different animal from days gone by. Much more stuff to go wrong emissions wise but I'm not seeing any problems on the road. Last 100,000 miles no engine troubles at all. Had a rear wheel seal start a slow leak. Only problem. Thank you Ram and Cummins.

Boy's the key to these new engines is to work them. Put a load behind that diesel. Helps tremendously to keep the engine clean and running for a long time. Stop and go traffic and short trips to the store will eventually clog your emissions with soot. Remember that black smoke you use to see coming out of the exhaust? It's getting trapped inside the exhaust so running hot and hard cleans that out. These are work trucks. Work it! You will be glad you did.
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I don't know, a lot of opinions on the subject.

After adding Opti-Lube, my truck runs much better. I used to avoid starting it until I had the kids in it because the exhaust was a real turn off. Now it Opti-Lube, the issue is near gone. I am getting 15 mph towing my 30', we are 17,000 lbs going down the road.

I don't have the time to research fuel when going down the road, I run out, I get more. I try to find the best I can but hey, I'm on vacation in the middle of nowhere.

Opti-Lube has been on of the best things I have done for my truck from my observations, hope that helps the OP.
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Crap fuel thanks to the EPA?

I wonder what the crap fuel would be like if it were left up to the oil refineries.
This new fuel is way better than the old fuel,you don't have the jelling problems that you had with all the paraffin , the sulfur which corroded the valves, the new fuel burns cleaner and the fuel filters will run 50000 miles, or more I remember the fuel in the late 1970 's plugging the fuel filters at 21 degrees, and you don't see all the black black smoke coming out of the exhaust when idling also the new engines with this new fuel last longer..Life is good....
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